On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:07:13PM +0300, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: > On 14.04.2017 22:58, Josh Branning wrote: > >>> Answer to Q1: > >>> Budget cost for build server to Ceata and community = $0.00 > >> > >> You have asked for partial funding from the Parabola fund handled by > >> Ceata, although you have disregarded Parabola Social Contract, > >> Ceata-Parabola Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement and Parabola's Delegate. > >> > >> And please note that if you make a personal fully-funded donation, you > >> still need the approval of the community to accept the donation. > >> Otherwise, it's just a donation to Emulatorman and can't be mentioned on > >> the Donations wiki page of the Parabola community. > > > > Really, it's up to GC4J to choose to what entity the build server will > > be donated to, if it is to be donated. > > He meant it for Parabola and asked for partial funding from the Parabola > fund, without getting the approval from the community for the spending. > Are you really missing the point here? > > We wouldn't be discussing this for two weeks now if GC4J wanted to make > a full donation to Emulatorman to help him in his work. > > Tiberiu
This whole affair is just sad. Even though I agree with the main principles of consensus, open discussion and other things mentioned, I think this somewhat mounts to rigidity, hair-splitting and some kind of a stuggle for power. Would it be so hard to support one of our own even if some would claim that he didn't follow the book? Is it really necessary to beat the shit out of someone for something this small? Is it really that hard to give someone the benfit of doubt and support someone that this far has done _everything_ for Parabola? It's like we're discussing the Talmud or if one can smoke on the Sabbath! I mean seriously?!? "Oh no, he drew a car before sunset! Crucify him!" For how long are you going to split hairs? Isn't it wonderful if the devs have a server?!? Wouldn't it be wonderful if this could help Parabola keeping the kernels up to date and thus secured? You don't think the intention were to help Parabola? And what's this with the donation, removing donations from the wiki site, and blah blah blah ... Here's no hope, joy or gratitude or anything positive at all! This is a very dark place! Continue down this path, and you'll end up with fewer devs, no server, no maintenance and nothing at all. Who wanna work under such conditions? I think that those taking some initiative (even if it by-passed some 'rules' according to some) and forcing this ship through this storm should get credit and honor for their work. Instead of no server, Parabola now actually have a build server, _if_ g4jc even chooses to stay in this dark valley, and there will also be a way for us to run it (despite costs for electricity), because many enough actually want that to happen! In a normal universe people would be happy and grateful that someone actually sees this through (and I bet it hasn't even occurd to them to remove donations or people from any lists of any sort). Even in the smallest enterprise those conserned would be over-joyed for finally having a build server of their own. I mean, in a _normal_ universe, that is. S > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
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