El 11/06/17 a las 07:11, [email protected] escribió: > On 2017-06-10 23:15, Bill Auger wrote: >> i also noticed this week when working on the calamares installer that >> the kernel is not in the 'base' group - i had to require the >> 'linux-libre' package separately to complete a fresh install - this is >> reasonable though as there several kernels to choose from so the one >> in the base group would be superfluous for every other use case > > This makes sense. If this is the approach we want to keep, the > installation guide should also be updated accordingly. > >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Megver83 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> openrc-base only offers you the init scripts for services in the base >>> group, but not base packages, while base-openrc offers all the base >>> packages and OpenRC init scripts. > > When migrating from systemd to OpenRC on an existing installation, the > base packages are most likely already installed. So it shouldn't hurt to > have just one group. Right?
that's right, but I meant a fresh install. If you are installing Parabola from a Live CD and you want the fresh install with OpenRC, in the past you *had* to install the base group (with Systemd) and then migrate to OpenRC. Now you don't have to do that way, you just install base-openrc and there you are. > On 2017-06-10 23:15, Bill Auger wrote: >> that is unnecessarily confusing > > I agree. > >>> El 10/06/17 a las 06:09, [email protected] escribió: >>>> I was not aware that there was such a group, this is nice! I think we >>>> should mention this in: >>>> * OpenRC's wiki page (https://wiki.parabola.nu/OpenRC) >>>> * Somewhere in the installation guide >>>> (https://wiki.parabola.nu/Installation_Guide) >>> >>> Well thought! > > I will do it, either later today or tomorrow. I can also help if you want. > On 2017-06-10 23:15, Bill Auger wrote: >> i also noticed this week when working on the calamares installer that >> the kernel is not in the 'base' group - i had to require the >> 'linux-libre' package separately to complete a fresh install - this is >> reasonable though as there several kernels to choose from so the one >> in the base group would be superfluous for every other use case >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Megver83 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> openrc-base only offers you the init scripts for services in the base >>> group, but not base packages, while base-openrc offers all the base >>> packages and OpenRC init scripts. >> >> that is unnecessarily confusing it could be renamed - something like: >> 'base-openrc-init-scripts' >> 'base-openrc-init' >> 'base-openrc-scripts' >> 'openrc-init-scripts' >> >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Megver83 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> El 10/06/17 a las 06:09, [email protected] escribió: >>>> On 2017-06-10 03:15, Megver83 wrote: >>>>> base-openrc purpose is to offer the same base installation as the >>>>> 'base' >>>>> group but with OpenRC instead of Systemd, so that users have the >>>>> possibility to install Parabola with OpenRC in fresh installations. >>>> >>>> I was not aware that there was such a group, this is nice! I think we >>>> should mention this in: >>>> * OpenRC's wiki page (https://wiki.parabola.nu/OpenRC) >>>> * Somewhere in the installation guide >>>> (https://wiki.parabola.nu/Installation_Guide) >>> >>> Well thought! >>> >>>> There's also a group called openrc-base >>>> (https://www.parabola.nu/groups/x86_64/openrc-base/). >>>> Is there really a need for having two separate groups? Can't they be >>>> merged into one? >>> >>> openrc-base only offers you the init scripts for services in the base >>> group, but not base packages, while base-openrc offers all the base >>> packages and OpenRC init scripts. >>> >>>> >>>> On 2017-06-10 03:15, Megver83 wrote: >>>>> El 09/06/17 a las 18:18, Isaac David escribió: >>>>>> Reg wrote: >>>>>>> I was installing Parabola on a new computer today and noticed >>>>>>> that the >>>>>>> linux-libre package is not included in the base group anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suppose that's not intended, so I thought I'd report it. >>>>>> >>>>>> you are right. >>>>>> >>>>>> the problem seems to be that the groups=() definition is now only >>>>>> evaluated if [ "${pkgbase}" = "linux" ], instead of the former >>>>>> [ "${pkgbase}" = "linux-libre" ] >>>>>> >>>>>> also, base-openrc was taken out of the groups. was that on purpose? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> base-openrc purpose is to offer the same base installation as the >>>>> 'base' >>>>> group but with OpenRC instead of Systemd, so that users have the >>>>> possibility to install Parabola with OpenRC in fresh installations. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> GPG: 0x227CA7C556B2BA78 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >
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