On 2017-06-11 19:09, Megver83 wrote:
that's right, but I meant a fresh install. If you are installing
Parabola from a Live CD and you want the fresh install with OpenRC, in
the past you *had* to install the base group (with Systemd) and then
migrate to OpenRC. Now you don't have to do that way, you just install
base-openrc and there you are.
I get it now, thank you for your patience!
As discussed previously I have now updated the wiki:
* Installation guide:
https://wiki.parabola.nu/index.php?title=Installation_Guide&type=revision&diff=19048&oldid=18816
* OpenRC page:
https://wiki.parabola.nu/index.php?title=OpenRC&type=revision&diff=19049&oldid=19035
Feedback is welcome!
On 2017-06-11 19:09, Megver83 wrote:
El 11/06/17 a las 07:11, [email protected] escribió:
On 2017-06-10 23:15, Bill Auger wrote:
i also noticed this week when working on the calamares installer that
the kernel is not in the 'base' group - i had to require the
'linux-libre' package separately to complete a fresh install - this
is
reasonable though as there several kernels to choose from so the one
in the base group would be superfluous for every other use case
This makes sense. If this is the approach we want to keep, the
installation guide should also be updated accordingly.
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Megver83 <[email protected]>
wrote:
openrc-base only offers you the init scripts for services in the
base
group, but not base packages, while base-openrc offers all the base
packages and OpenRC init scripts.
When migrating from systemd to OpenRC on an existing installation, the
base packages are most likely already installed. So it shouldn't hurt
to
have just one group. Right?
that's right, but I meant a fresh install. If you are installing
Parabola from a Live CD and you want the fresh install with OpenRC, in
the past you *had* to install the base group (with Systemd) and then
migrate to OpenRC. Now you don't have to do that way, you just install
base-openrc and there you are.
On 2017-06-10 23:15, Bill Auger wrote:
that is unnecessarily confusing
I agree.
El 10/06/17 a las 06:09, [email protected] escribió:
I was not aware that there was such a group, this is nice! I think
we
should mention this in:
* OpenRC's wiki page (https://wiki.parabola.nu/OpenRC)
* Somewhere in the installation guide
(https://wiki.parabola.nu/Installation_Guide)
Well thought!
I will do it, either later today or tomorrow.
I can also help if you want.
On 2017-06-10 23:15, Bill Auger wrote:
i also noticed this week when working on the calamares installer that
the kernel is not in the 'base' group - i had to require the
'linux-libre' package separately to complete a fresh install - this
is
reasonable though as there several kernels to choose from so the one
in the base group would be superfluous for every other use case
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Megver83 <[email protected]>
wrote:
openrc-base only offers you the init scripts for services in the
base
group, but not base packages, while base-openrc offers all the base
packages and OpenRC init scripts.
that is unnecessarily confusing it could be renamed - something like:
'base-openrc-init-scripts'
'base-openrc-init'
'base-openrc-scripts'
'openrc-init-scripts'
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Megver83 <[email protected]>
wrote:
El 10/06/17 a las 06:09, [email protected] escribió:
On 2017-06-10 03:15, Megver83 wrote:
base-openrc purpose is to offer the same base installation as the
'base'
group but with OpenRC instead of Systemd, so that users have the
possibility to install Parabola with OpenRC in fresh
installations.
I was not aware that there was such a group, this is nice! I think
we
should mention this in:
* OpenRC's wiki page (https://wiki.parabola.nu/OpenRC)
* Somewhere in the installation guide
(https://wiki.parabola.nu/Installation_Guide)
Well thought!
There's also a group called openrc-base
(https://www.parabola.nu/groups/x86_64/openrc-base/).
Is there really a need for having two separate groups? Can't they
be
merged into one?
openrc-base only offers you the init scripts for services in the
base
group, but not base packages, while base-openrc offers all the base
packages and OpenRC init scripts.
On 2017-06-10 03:15, Megver83 wrote:
El 09/06/17 a las 18:18, Isaac David escribió:
Reg wrote:
I was installing Parabola on a new computer today and noticed
that the
linux-libre package is not included in the base group anymore.
I suppose that's not intended, so I thought I'd report it.
you are right.
the problem seems to be that the groups=() definition is now only
evaluated if [ "${pkgbase}" = "linux" ], instead of the former
[ "${pkgbase}" = "linux-libre" ]
also, base-openrc was taken out of the groups. was that on
purpose?
base-openrc purpose is to offer the same base installation as the
'base'
group but with OpenRC instead of Systemd, so that users have the
possibility to install Parabola with OpenRC in fresh
installations.
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