> User reports: "Email causes loop"

One issue is that some of the reports may be on the users mail list,  
some may be on the forums. I don't know of a way to get those two  
( and others I don't know about ) reconciled. If two users on the  
mail list report a bug, and two users on the forums report the same  
bug, it is the same as if _only_ two users report the bug and not  
four. Obviously Trac is where that should be consolidated, but at  
what point is a bug "confirmed" by the community ?. Four users run  
into the bug ? Three ? Five ?

>
> What we would like is:
>
> X amount of people test and say, "Correct, I can reproduce this
> behavior." and maybe upload a bunch of emails to testing.roundcube.net
> in the process and let us know about it.

OK, I've used RC for over a year and never knew about that site.
Of course, I haven't had a need.

> I know we don't always have the fastest turn-around on bugs and
> tickets but generally what we also lack is more feedback.

Yes, I think what feedback you have is too diffuse ( spread out ).

> Someone
> opens an issues and is never to be seen again.

I call those drive-by bug reports. The user has an issue, fires off  
an e-mail to some list, and thinks that is enough. They may even  
unsubscribe from the mail list at that point because of "too many  
messages." I know of one acquaintance of mine that joined a list to  
report a bug ( not RC ), and then set his spam filter to block all  
the traffic from the list. Didn't even bother to unsubscribe. Those  
types of reports we can't help, even if it is an actual bug. I would  
hope that if the bug is serious enough, someone else will run into  
it, and they will have what it takes to champion it to Trac and  
provide enough information for the bug to be verified and possible  
fixed.

Open source software is based on community, which means ( at least to  
me ) the end users must take an active role in reporting and  
following through on bugs. Most users are used to commercial  
software, where it not only is not expected for the end user to  
provide feedback, but it is actively discouraged in many cases.

So IMHO any messages reporting bugs on the Users list or on the  
forums should be funneled to

<http://trac.roundcube.net/wiki/Howto_ReportIssues>

so bug reporting is consistent for the developers.

> And when it works for
> us, we close with WORKSFORME. Which doesn't rule out that the error is
> still stuck somewhere in RoundCube.

In order to "reward" those who spend their time to provide decent  
feedback, is there any feedback from the developer(s) when a bug has  
been verified ?


OK, what about RFE's though ?
They can't be "confirmed" in any way.
Popularity is not always a good indicator of priority either.

Would viable RFE's get included on

<http://trac.roundcube.net/roadmap>

or

<http://www.roundcube.net/about>

under planned features ?

How will those RFE's not determined to be viable be handled or  
notified ?
I assume all RFEs should have a Trac ticket.


Charles Dostale
System Admin - Silver Oaks Communications
http://www.silveroaks.com/
824 17th Street, Moline  IL  61265

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