Am 19.11.2012 08:22, schrieb Manfred Usselmann:
> Am 18.11.2012 23:13, schrieb Michael Heydekamp:
>> But the text part of a HTML message is by far the better formatted and
>> "quotable" part than the HTML part, being stripped and re-formatted by
>> Roundcube or any other MUA.
>
> Why should it be better formatted (Except maybe in some very exceptional
> cases where both parts have been created individually)? Usually the text
> part is just a stripped and reformatted version of the HTML part, only
> that this has already been done by the mail client when the HTML message
> was composed. So where is the difference...?
Well, look at the newsletter I attached to my original post, and try to
quote it.
Do you see the difference or shall I demonstrate it here?
>> See the newsletter that I attached to my original post, the quote is just
>> ridiculous.
> No, you need to use the part being displayed for quoting when composing a
> reply.
But currently I have no chance to display (and reply to) the text/plain
part, when "Display HTML" is enabled! I thought I made that quite clear
already.
> As has been said before text and html part sometimes differ, not
> only in formatting but also the content may be completely different! E.g.
> it could contain just a link to read the newletter online or be just some
> default text, etc.
You're right. So it would indeed be the best option to be able to switch
between both parts and then decide which one the user wants to reply to (no
matter if "Display HTML" is being the default view or not).
> b) Vice versa ("Display HTML" being enabled)
>
>> th regards to if I will reply with a HTML or a plain text message [...]
Uh, what's this now...?!!
The quote above is missing a lot of text between "[...] being enabled)" and
"th regards to [...]" The missing text is:
" I do NOT get a link to display the text/plain part. But if this link
would exist, THIS could do the trick wi" This text can be seen in your
reply, but it's gone in my quote of your reply.
Where the heck did this text go to? This is scaring me...
As can be seen in this example, it is more than obvious that quoting HTML
messages needs some major improvements. Losing content upon quoting is
barely acceptable.
And if I look at the source of your message, even the quoting in the
text/plain part is way beyond how a decent quoting in a plain text message
should look like. <shrug> But that may be a browser issue (displaying the
source) and I need to dig deeper into this issue before blaming Roundcube.
> (and which part of the message will be quoted). At least I should have the
> chance to VIEW the text/plain part, even if "Display HTML" is enabled. I do
> not have a final concept at hand, but would you agree that some redesign is
> needed here...?
Uh again - this quote does have just one "> " at the beginning of the
paragraph, the rest of the paragraph is "flowed" (unlike to the quote of the
first paragraph of your message above). This is confusing me.
We'll see how that will be looking if I'm now gonna send this mail (with
our default 'format_flowed = false')...
--
Michael Heydekamp
Co-Admin freexp.de
Düsseldorf/Germany
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