The legacy "VirtGL" logic is planned to be removed from the next version of Tizen emulator.
Is there any possibility that "check-gl" is falsely valued even when YaGL could be enabled because of the differences between check-gl based on "VirtGL" and "YaGL"?
Also, in regard to GL acceleration enable in remote, I'd like to test why check-gl fails when ran using Jenkins.
However, because of my lack of knowledge in this context, I can't decide where to put what log in check-gl.
If you can advise me on how to modify check-gl and what information is needed, I'll run check-gl through Jenkins and notify you of the results.
Thanks.
------- Original Message -------
Sender : Stanislav Vorobiov<[email protected]> Expert Engineer/SRR-Tizen S/W Group/삼성전자
Date : 2014-03-25 19:02 (GMT+09:00)
Title : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
Hi,
And what kind of information "check-gl" should produce exactly ? Technically, we don't have any
"extra" OpenGL requirements comparing to VirtGL's, but we can run in several "modes":
* legacy - Using host OpenGL 2.1, this limits guest to OpenGL ES v1 and v2
* OpenGL 3.1 - Using OpenGL core contexts, this still limits guest to OpenGL ES v1 and v2
* OpenGL 3.1 + GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility - Same as above, but guest can also run OpenGL ES v3
* OpenGL 3.2 - Same as above, but with guest shader translation
Would this information be useful in check-gl ? Also, what are use-cases for check-gl, is it only
running from emulator-manager to check if GPU switch should be enabled ? If yes, then no rewriting
is required
On 03/25/2014 07:36 AM, SeokYeon Hwang wrote:
> Hi stanislav, jinhyoung Jo.
>
>
>
> Could you rewrite "check-gl" for Windows, Linux and Mac ??
>
> Current "check-gl" produce only restrict information and it was made based on the legacy "VirtGL".
>
> I think now is a good time to upgrade "check-gl" including kind logs.
>
>
>
> What do you think about it ?
>
>
>
> ------- *Original Message* -------
>
> *Sender* : Stanislav Vorobiov
>
> *Date* : 2014-03-24 17:35 (GMT+09:00)
>
> *Title* : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The problem with RDP is not that it's unable to draw stuff, but acquiring the right device, RDP sessions
> use DISPLAY_DEVICE_MIRRORING_DRIVER instead of DISPLAY_DEVICE_PRIMARY_DEVICE as you mentioned yourself
> earlier and you can't have GL or DirectX acceleration with that. That's why there're things such as RemoteFX - you can try
> using that, but I'm not sure that it'll work for OpenGL (it works for DirectX) and there're some special OS requirements for it.
>
> But what I don't understand why doesn't jenkins agent work with GL, it should work. Are there any logs, what
> do they say ? Sorry, but I really don't understand what RDP has to do with all this...
> If you want to use RDP for more than jenkins, i.e. remote display then IMHO it probably won't do, it'll not be able
> to utilize host GPU resources
>
> On 03/24/2014 11:56 AM, SeokYeon Hwang wrote:
>> Unfortunately it doesn't work.
>>
>> We should try to find the way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, is there no way to enable GL acceleration on windows RDP ??
>>
>> Even though it could not draw on real display - we can not see that, It's OK.
>>
>> It can be used for remote display or remote auto testing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------- *Original Message* -------
>>
>> *Sender* : Stanislav VorobiovExpert Engineer/SRR-Tizen S/W Group/삼성전자
>>
>> *Date* : 2014-03-19 16:19 (GMT+09:00)
>>
>> *Title* : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I see. Is jenkins agent configured as a windows service ? If yes, m.b. this can help:
>>
>> http://jenkins-ci.361315.n4.nabble.com/DirectX-and-Jenkins-td4525448.html
>>
>> IMHO this problem is not related to RDP at all, jenkins does not use RDP, it simply runs your app
>> and can't initialize OpenGL since service may not be allowed to be interactive. Does jenkins slave
>> service has "allowed interactive" enabled in service properties ?
>>
>> On 03/19/2014 10:51 AM, SeokYeon Hwang wrote:
>>> We already running auto-test exactly same method described that instruction.
>>>
>>> We can run emulator and can do test, but we can not enable GL acceleration and can not run GL test.
>>>
>>> Maybe, the jenkins JNLP agent using windows RDP logic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can test it using "windows remote desktop".
>>>
>>> 1. In PC (A), Windows, open "cmd" window.
>>>
>>> 2. Run "[TIZEN_SDK]/tools/emulator/bin/check-gl.exe". It may produce positive results.
>>>
>>> 3. In PC (B), connect to PC (A) via "mstsc.exe" (Windows Remote Desktop client).
>>>
>>> 4. You can see already opened "cmd" window that contains positive result of "check-gl.exe".
>>>
>>> 5. Run "[TIZEN_SDK]/tools/emulator/bin/check-gl.exe". It may produce negative results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------- *Original Message* -------
>>>
>>> *Sender* : Stanislav VorobiovExpert Engineer/SRR-Tizen S/W Group/삼성전자
>>>
>>> *Date* : 2014-03-19 14:58 (GMT+09:00)
>>>
>>> *Title* : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I didn't use jenkins for quite a while and I don't have it installed to check, but
>>> it seems that jenkins can run tests using interactive logon, thus, it can run accelerated apps.
>>>
>>> Some quick googling shows:
>>>
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19441324/how-to-run-gui-tests-on-a-jenkins-windows-slave-without-remote-desktop-connectio
>>>
>>> On 03/19/2014 06:25 AM, SeokYeon Hwang wrote:
>>>> We are running auto-test using "jenkins".
>>>>
>>>> A "jenkins" master node trigger "tests" in slave nodes with various OS via JNLP Agent.
>>>>
>>>> We can use GL acceleration with linux, macos slaves, but we can not use it with Windows slaves.
>>>>
>>>> That is our issue currently encountered.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------- *Original Message* -------
>>>>
>>>> *Sender* : Stanislav VorobiovExpert Engineer/SRR-Tizen S/W Group/삼성전자
>>>>
>>>> *Date* : 2014-03-18 21:36 (GMT+09:00)
>>>>
>>>> *Title* : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, but our case is to run the emulator itself remotely, i.e. this is a little different.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, TigerVNC indeed works, OpenGL apps and emulator can be launched remotely but within a single session.
>>>> SeokYeon, will that do for auto-tests ?
>>>>
>>>> On 03/18/2014 04:05 PM, Roman Kubiak wrote:
>>>>> x11vnc works well, i tested it with the M0 target and got the tizen display from the phone on my desktop. I remember doing the same trick @home with XBMC, and i know XBMC uses some sort of hardware acceleration technique to run so x11vnc mirrors
> that, but
>>>>> you'll need to install it inside the emulator, i had to build it myself for ARM.
>>>>>
>>>>> best regards
>>>>> On 03/18/2014 12:50 PM, Stanislav Vorobiov wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it so important to use RDP, why not try VNC ? IMHO this topic covers it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/164372-Remote-Desktop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/18/2014 01:43 PM, 황석연 wrote:
>>>>>>> So using GL acceleration via DISPLAY_DEVICE_PRIMARY_DEVICE within Windows remoting session is impossible ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or, could you try this ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------- *Original Message* -------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sender* : Stanislav VorobiovExpert Engineer/SRR-Tizen S/W Group/삼성전자
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Date* : 2014-03-18 15:47 (GMT+09:00)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Title* : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, you mean you launch QEMU itself from withing remoting session and GL caps test doesn't pass. Yes this is expected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you tried doing it on linux ? m.b. AIGLX can help in this case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And regarding windows RDP, quick googling revealed that you can't have 3D acceleration in remote sessions, though it's possible, but it's really slow
>>>>>>> and this is for DirectX only and I'm not sure if it'll work for OpenGL:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/272537/direct3d-over-remote-desktop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/18/2014 08:03 AM, SeokYeon Hwang wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm not talking about a specific issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to discuss about the possible solutions regarding the auto-test issues, and add new functionalities if needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently, it is possible to use "spice" on Linux host.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, on Windows host, it is unfeasible to run tests using Spice because of the Spice server's inability to support Windows host yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, I suggest running tests using Windows RDP for now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (I haven't yet found out whether Windows RDP can send screens drawn with GL to clients or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if it can't send the screens, as long as it can be enabled we may use it in auto-tests.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The first issue we encouter is that it cannot pass the GL capability test when connected remotely from RDP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When we run "check-gl.exe" in Tizen SDK, the result becomes false.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is because of the fact that the display device is DISPLAY_DEVICE_MIRRORING_DRIVER.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we can find a solution to this issue, we can at least solve the auto-test issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have any other suggestions, please feel free to tell me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------- *Original Message* -------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sender* : Stanislav VorobiovExpert Engineer/SRR-Tizen S/W Group/삼성전자
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Date* : 2014-03-17 17:40 (GMT+09:00)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Title* : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, SeokYeon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, if I understand correctly, you've launched the emulator on one machine and
>>>>>>>> then try to connect to it from different machine using RDP, right ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, RDP basically presents QEMU graphic console contents to the client, i.e. GL acceleration
>>>>>>>> should happen on server as usual, right ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can I reproduce this ? What command line should be used to launch qemu in server mode so
>>>>>>>> RDP clients are able to connect ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do I need some special RDP client or can I use standard window's RDP for example ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/17/2014 12:18 PM, SeokYeon Hwang wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes, the remote approach is likely to be based on "spice", or any other solution with similar features.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When considering remote execution, we have to run the emulator from remote,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and bring the screen to us using "spice" or a similar solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But, there's a problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When we use Windows Remote Desktop to connect and run GL capability tests, the result is "false".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because the device which Remote Desktop uses does not utilize DISPLAY_DEVICE_PRIMARY_DEVICE which supports GL, but rather DISPLAY_DEVICE_MIRRORING_DRIVER.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd183569%28v=vs.85%29.aspx)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While different from Windows, Linux is believed to have limitations in GL acceleration as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The same thing happens when we run tests using CI tools such as Jenkins,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> since the Jenkins' master node connects to each of the OS slave nodes and run the tests.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Being not an expert about these issues, I'd like to discuss and find solutions together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------- *Original Message* -------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sender* : Stanislav VorobiovExpert Engineer/SRR-Tizen S/W Group/삼성전자
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Date* : 2014-03-14 15:36 (GMT+09:00)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Title* : Re: [Dev] [SDK/Emulator] Discuss about remote GL acceleration.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, SeokYeon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could you provide more info on the remote approach being used ? It's based on spice, right ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does "PRIMARY DISPLAY DEVICE" mean in this context ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does "emulator remote execution" and "emulator GL auto test on CI tool" mean ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These lines:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It does not need to draw screen on "MONITOR SCREEN" connected to remote host PC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In case of "emulator remote execution", the drawing image can get another way into my "MONITOR SCREEN".
>>>>>>>>> Are also not clear to me. Could you give some overview of this so that we could
>>>>>>>>> get a better picture of what's going on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/14/2014 06:12 AM, 황석연 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, stanislav and other emulator GL acceleration developer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When we connect host PC on remote, we can not trun on GL acceleration.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because "remote desktop" did not use PRIMARY DISPLAY DEVICE.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there no method to enable GL acceleration on remote ??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is related with "emulator remote execution" and "emulator GL auto test on CI tool".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How can we use GL acceleration via remote connection ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It does not need to draw screen on "MONITOR SCREEN" connected to remote host PC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In case of "emulator remote execution", the drawing image can get another way into my "MONITOR SCREEN".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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