Stanislav,

Do you have comment on this as the author of emulator-yagl?

Thanks,
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: José Bollo [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:04 PM
To: Yu, Max A
Cc: Roman Kubiak; [email protected]; Stanislav Vorobiov; Graydon, Tracy; 
Esquivel, Jenna G
Subject: Re: [Dev] Common/Generic profile images usability

On gio, 2014-05-22 at 07:32 +0000, Yu, Max A wrote:
> Hi José,
> 
> Emulator image for common should not contain mesa. Would you please kindly 
> remove mesa and include emulator-yagl in it?

Max,

That solution, removing mesa in the emulator image is not so easy. And 
conversely, emulator-yagl must also be removed from the other images.

Do you have currently a workaround?

Best regards
José

> 
> Thanks,
> Max
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: José Bollo [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:11 PM
> To: Yu, Max A
> Cc: Roman Kubiak; [email protected]; Stanislav Vorobiov; Graydon, 
> Tracy; Esquivel, Jenna G
> Subject: Re: [Dev] Common/Generic profile images usability
> 
> Hi Max,
> 
> Two weeks ago, as replacement during hollidays of Stéphane, I accepted a push 
> request from emulator-yagl. It had the effect first to brake the build and 
> when repaired to brake the image. So we removed the package.
> 
> From memory, we failed to add it mainly because there is a conflict of name 
> for libgbm. Both emulator-yagl and mesa are providing a package of the same 
> name "libgbm". It is then impossible to prefer a package over an other...
> 
> We are planning to reintroduce it in the futur.
> 
> Your help to build it is welcome. Many repackaging it with distinct names... 
> Or anything else.
> 
> Best regards
> José
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On mer, 2014-05-21 at 06:42 +0000, Yu, Max A wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'd like to know who is the Release Engineer for Tizen:Common. I'm in Tizen 
> > SDK team and I want to have emulator image built for Tizen:Common. I have 
> > built emulator image for Tizen:IVI:Release for M14.1. You can see that 
> > there is a 'emulator' repo for Tizen:IVI:Release at 
> > https://build.tizen.org/project/show?project=Tizen%3AIVI%3ARelease . Which 
> > contains the following lines in its Project Configuration:
> > 
> > #This solves emulators needs
> > %if "%_repository" == "emulator"
> >   Support: emulator-macros
> >   Prefer: emulator-yagl
> > %endif
> > 
> > I hope the RE for Tizen:Common can do the similar thing to add emulator 
> > repo. Please kindly let me know if you have any question.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Max
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of José 
> > Bollo
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:12 PM
> > To: Roman Kubiak
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Dev] Common/Generic profile images usability
> > 
> > Hi Roman,
> > 
> > the emulator-yagl is removed from common because it broke the build.
> > We intend to provide emulator packages in common as soon as possible but we 
> > prefer to first fix ARM building.
> > 
> > Sorry for that. Maybe you can install the emulator from an other 
> > repo but without warranty
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards
> > José
> > 
> > On gio, 2014-05-15 at 18:43 +0200, Roman Kubiak wrote:
> > > I can't find that package on the common-wayland-ia32 repository:
> > > root@10:~# zypper se emulator
> > > Loading repository data...
> > > Reading installed packages...
> > > 
> > > S | Name            | Summary                   | Type   
> > > --+-----------------+---------------------------+--------
> > >   | emulator-macros | macros for emulator build | package
> > > 
> > > Is it somewhere else, my repositories on the image are default:
> > > root@10:~# zypper lr -u
> > > # | Alias  | Name   | Enabled | Refresh |
> > > URI                                                                       
> > >                              
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+-------------------------
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+--
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+--
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+-------------------------
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+--
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+--
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+-------------------------
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+--
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+--
> > > --+--------+--------+---------+---------+-----------------
> > > 1 | common | common | Yes     | No      |
> > > http://download.tizen.org/snapshots/tizen/common/common-wayland-ia
> > > 32
> > > /l
> > > atest/repos/common/ia32/packages/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 05/15/2014 05:48 PM, Stanislav Vorobiov wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > You're running this in qemu, right ? It looks like you're using 
> > > > mesa, i.e. that Common image probably has mesa in emul image 
> > > > (mistakenly), you need to install emulator-yagl package, it should then 
> > > > work. But I'm not 100% sure that everything else will work, I have no 
> > > > idea what that Common image is and what it has inside.
> > > > 
> > > > On 05/15/2014 07:36 PM, Roman Kubiak wrote:
> > > > > Well i can't get the DRM backend to work in wayland i tried the 
> > > > > latest IVI-emul image and the latest COMMON image both for i386. 
> > > > > Weston says (looks like a missing drm driver):
> > > > > 
> > > > > root@10:~# weston --tty 1
> > > > > Date: 2014-05-15 PDT
> > > > > [08:34:28.394] weston 1.4.0
> > > > >                http://wayland.freedesktop.org/
> > > > >                Bug reports to: 
> > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wayland&component=weston&version=1.4.0
> > > > >                Build: 
> > > > > [08:34:28.394] OS: Linux, 3.12.18+, #4 PREEMPT Thu May 15
> > > > > 15:57:16 CEST 2014, i686 [08:34:28.394] Using config file 
> > > > > '/etc/xdg/weston/weston.ini'
> > > > > [08:34:28.395] Loading module '/usr/lib/weston/drm-backend.so'
> > > > > [08:34:28.395] initializing drm backend [08:34:28.396] using
> > > > > /dev/dri/card0 [08:34:28.396] Loading module 
> > > > > '/usr/lib/weston/gl-renderer.so'
> > > > > failed to load module: /usr/lib/gbm/gbm_gallium_drm.so: cannot 
> > > > > open shared object file: No such file or directory 
> > > > > [08:34:28.396] failed to initialize egl [08:34:28.401] fatal:
> > > > > failed to create compositor
> > > > > 
> > > > > But fbdev works fine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > best regards
> > > > > On 05/15/2014 04:51 PM, Stanislav Vorobiov wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, please see below
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 05/15/2014 06:42 PM, Roman Kubiak wrote:
> > > > > > > Helo again.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I ditched vmware due to licensing issues for now, but thank you 
> > > > > > > for the help i know how to fix it and i understand how to get 
> > > > > > > things running.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I jumped to our own emulator based on qemu (there is a very fresh 
> > > > > > > piece of code on tizen.org). I got it to build and run the Common 
> > > > > > > image, weston shows up but starting anything is causing a 
> > > > > > > segfault in the tz-launcher process.
> > > > > > > Though i was not able to start weston with the DRM 
> > > > > > > backend, it's running on fbdev. The VIGS/Yagl 
> > > > > > > implementation in the kernel/qemu might not be wayland 
> > > > > > > ready,
> > > > > > Actually, VIGS/YaGL already runs wayland, you can refer to 
> > > > > > Tizen IVI emulator, it uses tizen.org QEMU and runs Tizen IVI 
> > > > > > image. I'm not sure about Common, I never actually tried it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > but the FBDEV stuff seems to work fine. I don't know what 
> > > > > > > tz-launcher is doing that it's doing a segfault, i was able to 
> > > > > > > start a weston terminal and that seems to work.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The small fix i had to do was adding the display user to 
> > > > > > > the video group. Also the kernel for the emulator needs to 
> > > > > > > be rebuilt (the default config in the emulator-kernel repo 
> > > > > > > assumes that the root disk is /dev/vda and has that 
> > > > > > > hard-coded in a minimal initramfs that builds with the
> > > > > > > kernel)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Could someone tell me if tz-launcher might need DRM and that's 
> > > > > > > why it's crashing or is that something else i'd need to check ?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > best regards
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 05/14/2014 07:15 PM, VanCutsem, Geoffroy wrote:
> > > > > > > > Quick update:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I got the Tizen Common Weston desktop up and running 
> > > > > > > > under VMware using this image:
> > > > > > > > http://download.tizen.org/releases/daily/tizen/common/co
> > > > > > > > mm on -wayland-x86_64/tizen_20140513.6/
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The quickest way is to modify the 
> > > > > > > > /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf file and add ‘security=none’ to 
> > > > > > > > the kernel command-line (workaround for 
> > > > > > > > https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI-2964), a more permanent 
> > > > > > > > workaround (but not a complete fix) would be to modify the 
> > > > > > > > kernel config to have vmwgfx built-in (instead of a module). I 
> > > > > > > > have also verified that such modifications solves the issue 
> > > > > > > > (and you can keep security turned on in that case which you 
> > > > > > > > really really want).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I can push a patch to have ‘vmwgfx’ built-in to Tizen Common. 
> > > > > > > > In general, it may be good to re-use some of the specific 
> > > > > > > > kernel configs that are described here also in the Tizen Common 
> > > > > > > > kernel:
> > > > > > > > https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/IVI/artem-kernel#Kernel_configuration
> > > > > > > >  (look for those that are documented as useful for VMware).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Geoffroy
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > *From:*Dev [mailto:[email protected]] *On 
> > > > > > > > Behalf Of *VanCutsem, Geoffroy
> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:56 PM
> > > > > > > > *To:* Roman Kubiak; [email protected]
> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Dev] Common/Generic profile images 
> > > > > > > > usability
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi Roman,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If you’re interested, I used to keep some ‘recipes’ on 
> > > > > > > > how to run Tizen IVI 2.0 (based on X) under VMware, it’s 
> > > > > > > > described here: https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/IVI/IVI_2.0_VMware. 
> > > > > > > > Back then, I had to provide the xorg-x11-drv-vmware driver (as 
> > > > > > > > you have pointed out below) and I also had to modify some of 
> > > > > > > > the build options used for mesa and libdrm. Feel free to take a 
> > > > > > > > look there if you want to get that working but as pointed out 
> > > > > > > > by Dominique, we are not focused on X in Tizen 3.0 so I’m not 
> > > > > > > > sure where this would lead you to.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > A more interesting path would be to get the Wayland 
> > > > > > > > image running on VMware. I have quickly looked at the 
> > > > > > > > kernel used in Common and the vmwgfx driver is built as 
> > > > > > > > a module which means we could be hitting
> > > > > > > > https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI-2964
> > > > > > > > <https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI-2964>. I’ll see 
> > > > > > > > if I can run a quick test on my side to validate this. If 
> > > > > > > > that’s the problem, you could try to turn security off (add 
> > > > > > > > ‘security=none’ at the kernel command-line) or rebuild the 
> > > > > > > > kernel with the ‘vmwgfx’ driver built-in.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Geoffroy
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > *From:*Dev [mailto:[email protected]] *On 
> > > > > > > > Behalf Of *Roman Kubiak
> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Dev] Common/Generic profile images 
> > > > > > > > usability
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Just to update the Xorg image won't work either, there is only 
> > > > > > > > one driver included in the image for Xorg and that's the 
> > > > > > > > intel_drv.so (bit selfish i think) no fbdev or vmware drivers 
> > > > > > > > are present so Xorg will never start.
> > > > > > > > Also i can't any service in systemctl that could be some sort 
> > > > > > > > of a windows manager.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > best regards
> > > > > > > > Roman Kubiak
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On 05/14/2014 03:59 PM, Dominig ar Foll (Intel OTC) wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     Le 14/05/2014 15:38, Roman Kubiak a écrit :
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >         I got the images running before (the IVI profile) on 
> > > > > > > > VMware, so VMware itself is not an issue.
> > > > > > > >         My question was really, SHOULD I see something in the 
> > > > > > > > image, is there a UI in the common profile at all or is this a 
> > > > > > > > bare bones sort of OS image that contains no UI experience at 
> > > > > > > > all.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     When booting Tizen Common you should have a  test UX (basic 
> > > > > > > > Weston) with several user pre-logged on the system.
> > > > > > > >     The background show the sea and several islands.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     My question about Xorg is still not answered, what 
> > > > > > > > is the UI for Xorg i should expec t to find in the 
> > > > > > > > common image (is there some sort of default WM that 
> > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > launch?)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     We currently do not build a Tizen Common for X but only 
> > > > > > > > Wayland 32 and 64 nits for IA and 32 bits for ARM (work in 
> > > > > > > > progress)
> > > > > > > >     If someone is interested to take the responsibility of 
> > > > > > > > building and maintain X Common images, thanks to speak up.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     Regards
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >     Dominig
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
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