Hi Carsten,

On 2014-07-25 3:46 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:14:01 +0900 Damian Hobson-Garcia <[email protected]>
> said:
> 
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> On 2014-07-25 2:24 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>>>
>>> On 07/25/2014 02:13 PM, Damian Hobson-Garcia wrote:
>>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-07-25 1:07 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Mesa could also be used during build time instead of the 
>>>>>>> opegl-es-virtual-drv.
>>>>>> Yes and no, I think.  There is the minor problem that the
>>>>>> Mesa drivers provide a versioned libGLESv2.so.2, which all of
>>>>>> the built packages will link to.  This means that if I want
>>>>>> to install a driver (such as Mali or SGX) after the fact, I
>>>>>> have to provide libGLESv2.so.2 to overwrite the Mesa driver.
>>>>>> If Mesa changes its version number for some reason, now the
>>>>>> Mali and SGX drivers must update their names as well.
>>>>>> opegl-es-virtual-drv is nice because it is not versioned, so
>>>>>> as long as there is a libGLESv2.so (or a link of that name)
>>>>>> in the non floss drivers, everything works.
>>>>> or just provide a symlink. far simpler a solution. drivers
>>>>> just ghave to agree all to provide at least the same symlink to
>>>>> the real driver version
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think it matters whether it's a symlink or not.  Either
>>>> way, it requires all of the drivers to keep track of whatever
>>>> version number that Mesa is using for its libGLESv2 and update
>>>> the symlink accordingly.
>>>
>>> for ABI compatibility, mesa can't just go changing major so
>>> version anyway as a binary links agains the major s at the time
>>> i'ts build. if they change major so version they are saying they
>>> broke ABI. so onse everyone is building against libGLxx.so.2 then
>>> it has to stay - unless they break ABI which they neever should.
>>>
>>> so it can be ASSUMED to always be that version - tizen as a
>>> platform has to force/define that and guarantee it across all tizen
>>> variations and versions. if we have to patch mesa (or just add
>>> special symlinks in pkgs) or do the same for other vendor gl
>>> drivers, thatis the price you pay to keep compatibility. that is
>>> what we have to do.
>>
>> I agree that mesa shouldn't be changing their ABI, but if I have a
>> platform that never has and never will use Mesa drivers, why do I care
>> what they do with their ABI one way or the other? If I instead build
>> against something like opegl-es-virtual-drv, then its a complete
>> non-issue.  Then nothing needs to be forced or defined, and I don't
>> need any extra symlinks.
> 
> you don't need a virtual driver lib at all - just something that is
> libGLxx.so.N that has the symbols. that's it. if thats mesa - so be it. ensure
> the libGLxx.so.N file exists (for real or a symlink). whatever that file is 
> NOW
> in tizen is the abi you have to stick to.
> 
> 
Right, so if the ABI never changes, then neither will N. So would the
best solution then be to just not have N and just provide libGLxx.so
everywhere?

Damian
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