Hi

I think we are good to start a vote in the podling, and then a discussion
on the incubator general@ mailing list.

I checked some prerequisite:
- website is OK (https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/livy)
- name is OK
- maybe an update on the podling file (to avoid the "red" part
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/livy) is welcome

I agree to start podling vote and discussion on incubator general@.

Regards
JB

On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 5:29 PM larry mccay <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think that we agreed above that the existing mentions of Livy in the
> wild can be a post-graduation discussion.
>
> What is needed from the Livy team in order to bring graduation to the IPMC
> at this point?
> Do we need to put together some proposal for graduation?
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2026 at 3:53 PM Justin Mclean <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>> > Not sure Mapr is even a thing anymore and no actively for 9 years on
>> that fork.
>>
>> If the project can get the name change or a clear disclaimer added that
>> this is not Apache Livy that would be best.
>>
>> > Microsoft does reference Apache Livy docs at least.
>>
>> As a link to another document. The first and most prominent use needs to
>> be "Apache Livy", ideally with a TM symbol and a trademark attribution at
>> the bottom of the page.
>>
>> > Question about repo names - if they aren't forks of the actual project,
>> do they really have to name it to align with Apache Livy?
>>
>> Not in the way that they have there. In general, third-party software or
>> repository names should not incorporate Apache product names. If they do,
>> then they need to be in the form "[Project Name] for Apache [Product]” or
>> similar.
>>
>> > They could really name it anything, couldn't they?
>>
>> They can, but we need to protect our trademarks.
>>
>> BTW feel free to clarify with tramarks what needs to be done here.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Justin
>
>

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