OSGi's biggest contributors are Adobe, Bosch, Deutsche Telekom, Huawei, IBM, Liferay, NTT, Oracle (surprisingly), Paremus, and Software AG, though OSGi is a consortium, so similar to Java, it has a ton of other companies and organizations involved in various components. OSGi has its roots in embedded Java software and has only really recently gained traction in server software (like within the past few years; OSGi is almost as old as Java).
On 10 July 2017 at 17:05, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Jul 10, 2017 14:40, "Matt Sicker" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> 1. The stack is walked every time the LoggerContext has to be determined > >> dynamically. This would be a really shitty tradeoff to remove. > >> 2. I personally care more about supporting standard Java than Google's > >> bastardization, so I'm more in support of the replaceable jar. It also > >> provides a way to give a trimmed down version of log4j much more easily > for > >> Android use considering I doubt any Android apps are logging to a > database > >> for example. > >> > >> > > On the op-ed side of things, I see Oracle has having really messed things > > up with Java 9. I know backward compat is important (but not too much in > > this case) but what kind of hack is it to put class files in the MANIFEST > > folder. Gross. What that the only way to do multi-release jars? > > > > They aren’t in the MANIFEST folder because there isn’t one. It is > underneath META-INF. I am sure they did it this way because NO existing > tools should be looking for classes there. Unbelievably, both OSGi and > Android do. I can’t figure out what this says about Google, Oracle and > whoever leads OSGi. > > I can’t say I agree with everything that has been done in Java. The fact > that module-info files have a .java extension and are compiled into .class > files seems ridiculous to me. But we are way beyond the point where we have > any influence to change things, if we ever did. So we have to live with it > and move on. > > Ralph > > > -- Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
