Good point. Thank you, Matt.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 10:49 PM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If they cause an issue, it's trivial to exclude those dependencies in
> Maven, Gradle, or really any other build system. I suppose we can find
> out from users. :)
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 12:32 PM Tim Perry <tim.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Will including `com.sun.activation:jakarta.activation` and
> > `com.sun.mail:smtp` be a problem on application servers
> >  that already include implementations of them? My
> > knowledge of the J2EE application servers is incomplete
> > for the modern (Java 11+) versions.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 5:05 PM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > As with the old Java EE dependencies on the APIs, the same pattern
> > > still applies to Jakarta EE via the "provided" scope (or "compileOnly"
> > > configuration when using Gradle).
> > >
> > > For the second point, I'd lean toward including the dependencies in
> > > those cases. You could make them "runtime" scope to avoid using any
> > > classes from it at compile time, though.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 3:44 AM Piotr P. Karwasz
> > > <piotr.karw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I just pushed the `log4j-jakarta-smtp` to `release-2.x`. Thanks to
> many
> > > > comments and suggestions in the PR it works as expected, but I have
> some
> > > > doubts on the Maven dependency pattern to apply to the artifact.
> > > >
> > > > In practice the artifact:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Directly references classes from
> > > > `jakarta.activation:jakarta.activation-api` and
> > > > `jakarta.mail:jakarta.mail-api`, but since all known implementations
> of
> > > > those APIs shade those artifacts instead of depending on them, I put
> > > those
> > > > dependencies as optional compile dependencies. Should they be
> 'provided'
> > > > dependencies?
> > > > 2. There is in practice a single implementation of the two APIs
> above, so
> > > > to help users of standalone and light servlet container applications
> I
> > > > added `com.sun.activation:jakarta.activation` and
> `com.sun.mail:smtp` (a
> > > > lighter version of `com.sun.mail:jakarta.mail` with just the SMTP
> > > provider)
> > > > as non-optional runtime dependencies. Should they be optional
> > > dependencies?
> > > >
> > > > Piotr
> > >
>

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