Email archives are irrelevant for the provenance of sources; an arbitrary
tag/commit not sealed with `rel/` prefix might disappear and we will lose
the context to "what was proposed/rejected for release" .

We don't have hundreds of releases with dozens of RCs for each. I would
rather see my `git tag -l` neatly output

rel/0.1.0
rel/0.1.0-rc1
rel/0.2.0
rel/0.2.0-rc1
rel/0.3.0
rel/0.3.0-rc1

rather than

rel/0.1.0
rel/0.2.0
rel/0.3.0
prefix-for-tag-nobody-cares-0.1.0-rc1
prefix-for-tag-nobody-cares-0.2.0-rc1
prefix-for-tag-nobody-cares-0.3.0-rc1

RCs are subject to provenance, IMO.
Wanted to share my 2 cents.
This is not a mountain I am willing to die on.

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:40 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What you are proposing IMO is confusing and clutters up the release tag
> space: "rel" stands for "releases", not for "candidates for releases that
> may be completely broken" :-(
>
> It is of zero use to downstream users, and it is only being proposed out of
> the convenience because some tool does it, not because it's correct and
> best thing to do. We know what the candidates are already based on the tags
> in the emails which are forever archived.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2023, 15:03 Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
>
> > I support the idea of using `rel/`-prefixed tags both for releases and
> RCs
> > (release candidates). It matters for provenance, which is of subject for
> > RCs too, in particular, the downvoted ones. Next to that, it is
> intuitive,
> > one doesn't need to remember two different patterns to access releases
> and
> > RCs. Last but not least, these tags are created by CI, hence effortless
> > from an RMs pov.
> >
> > On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 12:09 AM Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 1. As noted below you tagged with red/0.1.0-rc2.  You really shouldn’t
> be
> > > using rel/ as a tag for candidates. Instead use something like
> > > tools-1.0-rc2.  rel tags are treated special by Infra and are meant for
> > > ONLY the “real” release tags (in this case 1.0).
> > >
> > > 2. I checked out the tag and ran the build but it seems to hang at
> > >
> > > [INFO] --- maven-invoker-plugin:3.5.1:integration-test (default) @
> > > log4j-transform-maven-plugin ---
> > > [INFO] Building: location/pom.xml
> > >
> > > I ended up killing it after 5 minutes.
> > >
> > > Ralph
> > >
> > > > On May 1, 2023, at 12:09 PM, Piotr P. Karwasz <
> piotr.karw...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Apache Log4j Transformation Tools 0.1.0 release is now available
> > for
> > > voting.
> > > >
> > > > This is the first release and it contains two modules:
> > > >
> > > > * [LOG4J2-3638]: Adds a bytecode transformation tool to provide
> > > > location information without reflection.
> > > > * [LOG4J2-673]: Adds a resource transformer for the Maven Shade
> Plugin
> > > > to merge `Log4j2Plugins.dat` plugin caches. Thanks to Eduard
> > > > Gizatullin.
> > > >
> > > > Source repository: https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-transform
> > > > Tag: rel/0.1.0-rc2
> > > > Commit: 7bb767c1466cd9faebfeeffa8136b231bf2b6fae
> > > > Artifacts:
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/logging/log4j-transform/0.1.0
> > > > Nexus repository:
> > > >
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachelogging-1104
> > > > CI job run:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j-transform/actions/runs/4853722893
> > > > Signing key:
> > >
> >
> https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?search=077e8893a6dcc33dd4a4d5b256e73ba9a0b592d0&fingerprint=on&op=index
> > > >
> > > > Please download, test, and cast your votes on the Log4j developers
> > list.
> > > >
> > > > [ ] +1, release the artifacts
> > > > [ ] -1, don't release, because...
> > > >
> > > > The vote will remain open for 72 hours All votes are welcome and we
> > > > encourage everyone to test the release, but only the Logging Services
> > > > PMC votes are officially counted. At least 3 +1 votes and more
> > > > positive than negative votes are required.
> > > >
> > > > Countdown:
> > >
> >
> https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20230504T2115&p0=4162&font=cursive
> > > >
> > > > Piotr
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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