I think Chainsaw /can/ be useful, but it currently is not.  If people are
willing to work on it a bit more, I can help out a bit.  I can see it
potentially being useful for the type of work that I do(embedded work) but
it needs a fair amount of attention in order to get to the useful level IMO.

I have spent a fair amount of time getting it into a state where it will
run with newer JVMs and removing the old dependencies and re-architecting
the backend to be more generic and allow for inputs from all types of
sources.  I think the basic architecture is sound at this point, but I
think the GUI is much too busy to make it useful.  I have been thinking
about how it could be re-done though, I do have some ideas that I can put
in a new thread.

Latest staging site for reference:
https://logging.staged.apache.org/chainsaw/2.2.0/

-Robert Middleton

On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 10:30 AM Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> wrote:

> -1
>
> While changes may be infrequent, the project is still useful and works
> well. I'll continue to contribute to maintenance.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, 10:00 AM Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote:
>
> > As earlier discussions[1] indicate, Chainsaw has been lacking on
> > maintenance and no PMC member stepped up to perform necessary chores.
> > This is a vote to retire the Chainsaw by means of
> >
> > - Move it to the list of dormant projects[2]
> > - Making it clear in its README and website that the project is not
> > maintained anymore
> > - Archive its repository[3]
> >
> > Please cast your votes on this mailing list.
> >
> > [ ] +1, retire the project
> > [ ] -1, don't retire, because...
> >
> > This vote is open for 72 hours and will pass unless getting a net
> > negative vote count. All votes are welcome and we encourage everyone,
> > but only the Logging Services PMC votes are officially counted. At
> > least 3 +1 votes and more positive than negative votes are required.
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/fsykp5hxr9z0c2h85snnhnj2pq553t6q
> > [2] https://logging.apache.org/dormant.html
> > [3] https://github.com/apache/chainsaw
> >
>

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