> On Sep 29, 2023, at 6:10 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, at 12:51, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, at 19:38, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> At this point in time I will abstain from voting. As far as I am 
>>> concerned only 1 vote counts - Scott’s. He has steadfastly asked that 
>>> the project not be retired and until he positively says he will no 
>>> longer maintain it I am not willing to override that.
>> 
>> 
>> Agreed. I don’t think this discussion is already due for a vote. Even 
>> when we consider it dormant, we should consider to fix the problem. 
>> Unlike log4j1, chainsaw was never considered EOL.
>> 
>> I would like to hear from Scott but also Robert, who did the last commits.
> 
> I was just reading that message again, and would like to add something.
> 
> I actually disagree that only one vote counts in this case. The PMC as a 
> whole is responsible for maintaining a component, fixing security issues etc. 
> If we decide to keep a component, we should be behind this decision.
> 
> I think we should reopen this vote and discussion in a few weeks again to 
> see, if there actually was any maintenance (no threating here)
> 

I think you misunderstood my position. Scott has been asked at least once a 
year on average on whether we should retire Chainsaw. I asked that question of 
him many times.  Every time he has been asked he has said something to the 
effect of “I don’t have a lot of time but I will commit to supporting 
Chainsaw”. In addition others have stepped up to contribute to it to help out.  
So long as a component has 1 PMC member who is dedicated to maintaining a 
component I will not support retiring it.

Ralph

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