On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, at 00:01, Ralph Goers wrote: > There is a difference between a JEE application that only uses servlets > vs one that uses EJBs. At a former employer we often used JBoss to run > servlets even though we had no EJBs. In an environment with EJBs I am > not sure how you can distinguish the various components from each other > without JNDI.
I understand that in the EJB world you would need JNDI, but I fail to understand how your EJBs would use Log4j JNDI features? It appears to me that while EE world needs it, the Logging world does not necessary need it > > Ralph > >> On Oct 31, 2023, at 3:12 PM, Volkan Yazıcı <vol...@yazi.ci> wrote: >> >> Piotr, I think it is important to differentiate what is a requirement and >> what is just another way of achieving something. My employer has several >> Tomcat- and JBoss-based JEE applications (using Log4j) and we don't have a >> single JNDI usage I know of. >> >> I would like to hear "the functional need" that can't be done in a JEE >> application without JNDI. My emphasis is important, since "using JNDI" is >> not a functional need. >> >> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 10:55 PM Piotr P. Karwasz <piotr.karw...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Christian, >>> >>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 at 21:57, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>> I am surprised we still have JNDI in the code at all, but this made me >>> curious: >>>> why do JEE users need JNDI features for logging? Why can't they just use >>> the normal log mechanism? >>> >>> JNDI is basically a bean container/factory that allows Java EE >>> applications to retrieve database connection pools, message queues or >>> mail sessions (and remote code as a bonus). >>> For the JMS appender, JNDI is essential. >>> For the JDBC appender there is an alternative: DBCP2 can provide a >>> database connection pool via a special connection string. >>> The SMTP appender does not use JNDI as far as I remember. >>> >>> Of course there is an alternative to JNDI also in the Java EE world >>> (CDI), but it doesn't work with simple servlet containers like Tomcat. >>> >>> Piotr >>>
