Can’t people submit patches via email still? Also, we have mailing lists for notifications and such that can’t realistically be folded in dev@ because of the immense traffic differences.
> On Aug 14, 2024, at 08:17, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > I thought gitbox was still an alternative to having to use GitHub to submit > PRs. That said, it wouldn’t be for discussions, etc. > > Ralph > >> On Aug 14, 2024, at 3:31 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think that to "deactivate" the mailing lists you refer to would be very >> bad and might not even be allowed by Apache. >> >> You cannot/shouldn't force people to create a GitHub (Microsoft) account >> just to talk to us. >> >> Odd as it sounds, I've had someone told me they would not submit a PR >> because they did not want to create a GH account. It feels >> counterproductive from my POV not to submit PRs but it shouldn't lock >> people out. >> >> There might also be parts of the world where GH is not available but Apache >> servers are (more of a geopolitical issue). >> >> Gary >> >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024, 3:43 AM Piotr P. Karwasz <piotr.karw...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Gary, >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 at 12:15, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> While it is a different community, I have received negative feedback in >>>> Commons against the trend to spread information all over the place, and >>> we >>>> don't use GitHub. >>>> >>>> The TLDR is that in the past it was easier to find information because >>> you >>>> only had the mailing list and later Jira. Now you have multiple mailing >>>> lists, Jira, emails from GitHub, plus discussions in GitHub PRs, plus >>>> Slack. Adding to the list is GitHub issues... >>> >>> Might I propose a split of concerns between GH Discussions and the >>> mailing lists: >>> >>> * We use GH Discussions as a replacement for `log4j-user`, >>> `log4net-user`, `log4cxx-user`. Two of these mailing lists are dead >>> anyway, since subscribing to a ML for a one-off question is a hustle. >>> * We use `dev@logging` as always for reaching consensus and decisions >>> concerning the directions we choose for development. >>> >>> BTW: Can we deactivate all the mailing lists except `dev`, `private` >>> and `security`? >>> >>> Piotr >>> >
