On Thu, Oct 3, 2024, at 18:10, Gary Gregory wrote:
> FWIW, I don't think apache voting guidelines allow for "you can only vote a
> certain way only if ..."

That's why I wrote:
"Please CONSIDER voting ONLY -1, if:"

Cheers,
Christian

>
> Gary
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 3:30 PM Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> We have discussed this in the past. I hope we can pick up a decent dev
>> speed with Flume after we adopt it. I don't regret moving it into Logging
>> Services, but we have not seen any significant movement.
>>
>> This message (private, please don't quote from it), on the other hand, is
>> significant:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/b6ndsy30j239s3fw0o2tqwm9cwmv3801
>>
>> I want to call a vote to move Flume to dormant. Dormant means only it
>> receives the Dormant label, and we move it to the dormant tab on our main
>> website. This will give our users the correct information that we are *not*
>> actively maintaining Flume. Dormant does not mean we are dropping it.
>> Whenever PMC members or committers want to work on it, they can; when we
>> see significant movement on the sub-project, we can label it as active.
>>
>> As I see it now, there is no active oversight or development. We, Logging
>> Services, consider this dormant. For transparency and risk assessment, we
>> need to be open about this status.
>>
>> Please vote:
>>
>> [] +1, label Flume as dormant
>> [] -1, don't label Flume as dormant because...
>>
>> Please consider voting ONLY -1, if:
>>
>>  - you are willing to reply to the message linked above within the next 72
>> hours with helpful information (the usual timeframe to respond)
>>  - AND you are willing to maintain this project in the next few months,
>> which means upgrading dependencies, taking care of security, and -at least-
>> acknowledging bug reports and responding to them
>>  - AND you are willing to check, validate, and vote on a new release if it
>> happens
>>
>> I would like to highlight that we are not changing code here; to me, this
>> is a procedural vote. Since we need three PMC members to maintain a
>> release, I consider this project active if at least three PMC members
>> commit to the above.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Christian
>>
>> --
>> The Apache Software Foundation
>> V.P., Data Privacy
>>

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