Hi, Dawid Weiss and I are both involved in the Apache Lucene project and we know the problems with MappedByteBuffer and unmapping. Dawid already responded with a source code link to our impl (which needs to use the hacky cleaner() approach; also look at the heavy documentation in this class): https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/blob/trunk/lucene/core/src/java/org/apache/lucene/store/MMapDirectory.java
So we would be very happy to get this issue resolved! The cleaner() hack is enabled by default in Lucene if the JVM supports it (so we won't break if JIGSAW prevents this, but our *large* users would heavily complain). >> This is fundamentally about *integrity* of the runtime. It follows there >> are security implications, but it’s still fundamentally an integrity issue >> and guarding an unsafe operation with a Security Manager is >> unfortunately an insufficient solution. > > Right, and just to add that there has been many attempts over the years > to find solutions to this issue. I think the closest was atomimcally > remapping but that wasn't feasible on all platforms and also didn't free > up the address space in a timely manner. So we should really find a solution here. I was talking with several people on various conferences (Rory O'Donnel or Mark Reinhold) and we had some ideas how to solve this. My idea how to solve this is explained below (I am not a JVM internals or Hotspot guy, so excuse some obviously "wrong" assumptions): Actually there are 2 issues, not only one. The first issue is, as mentioned before: you cannot unmap via API. This is needed for many apps, including Apache Lucene, for a reason which comes more from "another" bug, and this is my issue #2 (see below). First, unmapping for Lucene is very important at the moment, because we operate on the Lucene indexes purely using mmap (see [1]), which may be several hundreds of Gigabytes easily. On highly dynamic systems, Lucene often maps new files (also very largeones ) and relies on the fact, that older, deleted files are unmapped in time (this does not need to be ASAP, just "in time"). So we have those 2 "bugs", which force us to unmap: (1) disk space issues / delete after last close (POSIX) vs. No delete at all (Windows) - disk space: we have seen customers running out of disk space on Lucene, because unmapping wasn’t done in time and therefore POSIX with delete on last close cannot free the disk space, although the file was already deleted. The problem you are seeing on Windows that you cannot delete, is therefore worse on Linux, because it is hidden to the user - you cannot free the disk space of the deleted file! Lucene creates and deletes files all the time while indexing realtime data (e.g. think of Github's very dynamic code search index, which is backed by Lucene/Elasticsearch). - virtual memory: If you map huge files (several hundreds of Gigabytes) and they are not unmapped in time, you may run out of virtual address space. This especially affects Windows, because it does not use the full 46 bits (or like that) of addresses. So effectively you can only map like 4 Terabytes on Windows. If you have fragmentation of address space this gets worse (In Lucene, we map in chunks of 1 GiB because of the signed 32 bit integer limit of ByteBuffer, so fragmentation is not our biggest issue). (2) It takes veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time until the unmapping actually occurs! This is the real bug! If the garbage collector would clean up the buffers asap, we would not need to unmap from user code. In Lucene we just delay the file delete on Windows, so we are not really affected by the file deletion inability (but that would be nice if it could be fixed). If you look at the usage pattern of those huge, mapped files, you will see why they are in most cases *never ever* unmapped automatically: Lucene maps very large files and uses them for longer time. So the MappedByteBuffer object gets migrated to older generations on the heap. Garbage collection there happens, of course, very delayed. That would not be the most problematic part, but there is a second issue: The MappedByteBuffer object is just a very small object (in heap size measurement: just an object header and a few pointers), so the garbage collector does not see it as heavy! It's just a very small like 30 bytes object instance. Why should the Garbage collector clean it up? And in fact it will almost never do this! The garbage collector cannot see that our 30 bytes object instance "sits" on something like 300 Gigabytes of virtual memory and disk space! One proposal to fix this would be to add something like an internal OpenJDK Java Annotation or similar where you can "mark" heavy objects, so Garbage collector could free them by preference (similar to sun.misc.Contended). For the Apache Lucene team, Uwe [1] http://blog.thetaphi.de/2012/07/use-lucenes-mmapdirectory-on-64bit.html ----- Uwe Schindler uschind...@apache.org ASF Member, Apache Lucene PMC / Committer Bremen, Germany http://lucene.apache.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
