Hi Dawid,

The problem I've had with Git is not that the basic model is hard to
understand -- it's that the basic model seems inadequate for many things,
so there's been a huge proliferation of mysterious switches that are poorly
documented and also very very powerful.  svn has a few of these, but
nowhere near the number or the opacity.  Do you have a decent online
resource that explains how these are meant to be used?

Karl


On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Dawid Weiss <dawid.we...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A few unrelated answers:
>
> 1) I would remove everything from SVN, add a commit informing about
> the move to git, then import all this up-to-date history into git (I
> volunteer to do this) and revert the last commit (in git). This way
> the history is complete, including SVN->git move.
>
> Note this would require a few hours of stop-the-world on commits.
>
> 2. Contrary to Mark I use git command line only. And gitk (--all) to
> visualize the history. git is really simple conceptually, I strongly
> recommend reading this:
>
> http://eagain.net/articles/git-for-computer-scientists/
>
> or this, which is slightly more verbose:
> http://nyuccl.org/pages/gittutorial/
>
> Once you get the idea that everything is in git is basically a set of
> "states" of blobs (files, file sets, commit info history) everything
> becomes much simpler. For example a cherry pick of commit X to branch
> Y is basically applying X's diff from its parent commit to the current
> state of Y. It's not a merge. It's svn's equivalent of svn diff >
> patch, svn switch Y, svn apply patch. A merge is applying patches from
> two separate lines of development that consolidate them. If there's a
> conflict you add a third patch to resolve this conflict.
>
> We can definitely put up some beginner-level workflows, but the
> understanding of what git is simplifies life greatly.
>
> In any case, Mark -- let me know (directly or on the list) when you
> need me to perform the final git conversion. Once the infra has set up
> a git repo it's all about one push from github to it (--mirror) and
> we're set.
>
> Dawid
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Steve Davids <sdav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > @Prasanna you can follow along with the SVN -> GIT history migration in
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-6933
> >
> > @Erick for some basics you can checkout these interactive git guides,
> either
> > https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-git or
> http://gitreal.codeschool.com/
> > though as Mark said if you find a decent UI you rarely need to use the
> > command line. I’ve been fond of IntelliJ’s git support, but I have found
> > Eclipse’s to be absolutely terrible (egit).
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Prasanna Dangalla <
> prasannadanga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, 10 January 2016, Prasanna Dangalla <
> prasannadanga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >> I'm a new member to this project. I was reading the mails previously.
> >> Thiught leeHere if we migrate
> >>
> >> mails previously. Thought of giving an input. Here if we migrate
> >
> > Sorry for the typo...
> >>
> >>
> >> from svn its better to migrate the history as well. I meant the commit
> >> history. How do we migrate the SVN commit log from svn to git ?
> >>
> >> On Sunday, 10 January 2016, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think we will update much of the doc as we go, but I'm sure there are
> >>> plenty of people that can help on the list with any questions. We can
> >>> probably get some basics up relatively painlessly. I'd guess the
> number of
> >>> committers that have not worked with Git yet is very small.
> >>>
> >>> As a start, my recommendation would be to Google Git for SVN users and
> >>> look at some of those resources though. It's probably better than what
> we
> >>> will subset.
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I like to just use SmartGit and mostly ignore command line
> >>> Git :)
> >>>
> >>> How have you been able to ignore GitHub for so long :)
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 6:13 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm a little confused. A while ago I asked about whether I had to
> >>>> learn all about Git, and as I remember the reply was "this is just
> >>>> about the build process". Perhaps I mis-interpreted or that was
> >>>> referring only to the bits Dawid was working on at that instant or....
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, assuming the SVN repo becomes read-only, that implies that all
> >>>> our commits need to happen in Git, right? There are still some "git
> >>>> challenged" curmudgeons out there (like me) who really haven't much of
> >>>> a clue. I'll figure it out, mind you but it'd be nice if there were a
> >>>> clear signal that "Now you have to figure it out because you can't
> >>>> commit to the SVN repo any more".
> >>>>
> >>>> And the "how to contribute" page is all about SVN:
> >>>> https://wiki.apache.org/solr/HowToContribute, if my understanding is
> >>>> at all close that page needs some significant editing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally, before I screw up my first commit under Git, it would be
> >>>> super helpful if there were a step-by-step. No doubt that really
> >>>> amounts to three commands or something, but before "just trying stuff"
> >>>> it would be nice to have the steps for committing (pushing?) to trunk
> >>>> and then getting those changes into 5x (well, maybe 6.0 by then)
> >>>> outlined...
> >>>>
> >>>> Or I'm off in the weeds here, always a possibility.
> >>>>
> >>>> FWIW,
> >>>> Erick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de>
> wrote:
> >>>> > Hi Mark,
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > thanks for starting this! Looking forward to the whole process. When
> >>>> > Infra
> >>>> > is about to “activate” the new GIT repo, I will take care of
> Policeman
> >>>> > Jenkins and fix the remaining validation tasks. I don’t want to do
> >>>> > this. I
> >>>> > think your commit is fine.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > We now need some workflows how to merge between master/trunk and the
> >>>> > release
> >>>> > branches. Projects do this in different ways (cherry-picking,…). I
> >>>> > have no
> >>>> > preference or idea, sorry! I only know how to merge feature branches
> >>>> > into
> >>>> > master J
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > You mentioned that we should make the old svn read only. Maybe do it
> >>>> > similar
> >>>> > like we did during LuSolr merge: Add a final commit removing
> >>>> > everything from
> >>>> > trunk/branch_5x and leaving a readme.txt file in trunk and branch_5x
> >>>> > pointing to Git. All other branches stay alive. After that we could
> >>>> > make it
> >>>> > read only – but it is not really needed. What do others think?
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Uwe
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -----
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Uwe Schindler
> >>>> >
> >>>> > H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
> >>>> >
> >>>> > http://www.thetaphi.de
> >>>> >
> >>>> > eMail: u...@thetaphi.de
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > From: Mark Miller [mailto:markrmil...@gmail.com]
> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 10:55 PM
> >>>> > To: java-dev <java-...@lucene.apache.org>
> >>>> > Subject: Moving Lucene / Solr from SVN to Git
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > We have done almost all of the work necessary for a move and I have
> >>>> > filed an
> >>>> > issue with INFRA.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > LUCENE-6937: Migrate Lucene project from SVN to Git.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-6937
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > INFRA-11056: Migrate Lucene project from SVN to Git.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-11056
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Everyone knows about rebase and linear history right ;)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > - Mark
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> >
> >>>> > - Mark
> >>>> >
> >>>> > about.me/markrmiller
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
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> > http://wso2.com/about/team/prasanna-dangalla
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> >
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