It's just an example though. Beyond simple features and improvements, there
are also lots of things we do under Other and Optimizations that we would
not not necessarily consider for a bug fix release (higher bar), but that
would be in a 5.6 release. A jetty point release update for example.

- Mark

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:10 PM Nicholas Knize <nkn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Things that help users migrate from 5x to 6x that we perhaps missed out.
>
> This may be semantics but these sound to me like bugs? Not features?
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Anshum Gupta <ans...@anshumgupta.net>
> wrote:
>
>> My thoughts exactly.
>>
>> The features that go into a possible 5.6 or 5.7 release would be stuff
>> that is unrelated to index format. Things that help users migrate from 5x
>> to 6x that we perhaps missed out. I'm just saying there's a real valid
>> possibility of such a release.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just want to point out: just like the previous line of bug fix
>>> releases dies down heavily, so would the feature backports. They will
>>> likely be simple useful things rather than crazy complicated hard things.
>>> There probably won't be that many, just like the bug fix releases. Let's
>>> not pretend it's going to end up like an active branch with devs always
>>> wondering if the new codec they are slamming in is going to mess things up.
>>>
>>> If there is any demand for this, it's going to be by people on 5x for
>>> stability. Upgrading to a 6.0 release is an early adopter. 6.1 and 6.2 may
>>> or may not be any better. Upgrading a major release can be quite disturbing
>>> and many users take a long, long time to do it.
>>>
>>> A 5.6, 5.7 would only be more stable. Fewer and simpler backports than
>>> our two main branches. Users can simply gobble them up, rather than choke
>>> them down like a major release. Useful features can be found that may not
>>> affect index format.
>>>
>>> Anyway, if there ends up being demand, I'll certainly be one of the
>>> 3 +1's needed.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:18 PM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:14 PM Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To me it is quite clear that once we released 6.0, there is
>>>>> technically no possibility to release a brand new 5.6 Feature-Release! The
>>>>> main reason: 6.0 (if released before 5.6) will not be able to read indexes
>>>>> of 5.6 (because it does not know about the format at the time of its
>>>>> release). So the only thing we can do is release 5.5.1, 5.5.2,… where new
>>>>> index/codecs are not allowed. And for that we already have a branch! Go
>>>>> ahead and commit bugfixes there!
>>>>>
>>>> That makes no sense. There are only a handful of people committing
>>>> index format changes. It's beyond simple for those people to understand
>>>> once the next major version is released, don't put any more index format
>>>> changes into the previous line.
>>>>
>>>> That is a very weak technical argument. Committers already have to
>>>> remember how to deal with back compat and what changes can happen when.
>>>> This is no different.
>>>>
>>>> - Mark
>>>> --
>>>> - Mark
>>>> about.me/markrmiller
>>>>
>>> --
>>> - Mark
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Anshum Gupta
>>
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- Mark
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