Hi Jim,

I’d like to commit a fix for SOLR-12765 where a side-effect from other issue 
changed the format of some JMX beans.

> On 14 Sep 2018, at 23:25, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the late reply. I built the first RC earlier today and had some 
> issues to pass the smoke tests. Most of the issue were on my end but I had to 
> open https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8500 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8500> to fix an actual bug. 
> SCassandra, the issue is in the smoke tester so I don't know if we need a 
> respin but I didn't send the artifacts so I can just rebuild RC1 with 
> LUCENE-8500 when it's merged. In the meantime don't hesitate to merge the doc 
> changes regarding Tika. Steve I can wait Tuesday to rebuild RC1 if you think 
> it's worth waiting, otherwise if the smoke tests are fixed I'll proceed on 
> Monday.
> 
> Le ven. 14 sept. 2018 à 21:01, Steve Rowe <sar...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:sar...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I put the Solr ref guide edits Cassandra referred to in a patch on 
> SOLR-12771, but as I mentioned in a comment there, I’d like to get Hoss’ss 
> input before I commit, and he’s taking today off, so it’ll probably be Monday 
> before he’ll have a chance to look at it.
> 
> So in short, please don’t delay building the RC for SOLR-12771.
> 
> --
> Steve
> www.lucidworks.com <http://www.lucidworks.com/>
> 
> > On Sep 14, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:casstarg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Jim, 
> > 
> > Are you working on the RC now? Overnight I discovered two really minor 
> > things: first, there's an error in CHANGES.txt regarding the Tika version 
> > that I mentioned in SOLR-12551 - Erick told me offline to go ahead and fix 
> > it. Second, Steve has some edits he'd like to get in for the Solr Ref Guide 
> > he also sent me offline.
> > 
> > Neither have very much impact, but both could probably wait until/if there 
> > is a respin of the RC - basically if you haven't started the RC yet I'll 
> > push those through. But if you have started I'll wait.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Cassandra
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 3:30 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Sure you can backport Tomás, the first RC is planned for tomorrow.
> > 
> > Le jeu. 13 sept. 2018 à 00:10, Tomás Fernández Löbbe <tomasflo...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:tomasflo...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > Hi Jim,
> > I'd like to commit SOLR-12766 to 7.5. SOLR-11881 added retries for internal 
> > requests, but the backoff time in cases with multiple updates can become 
> > big, and cause clients to timeout. The change is minimal, just backoff once 
> > for a retry batch instead of for every doc.
> > 
> > I'm testing a patch and plan to commit later today, if there aren't any 
> > issues or objections. 
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:39 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Thanks !
> > 
> > Le mer. 12 sept. 2018 à 11:49, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:jpou...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > Hey Jim,
> > 
> > I added you to the hudson-jobadmin group so that you can do it next time.
> > 
> > Steve, thanks for taking care of setting up the builds!
> > 
> > Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 17:32, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > No worries at all Cassandra. What do you think of building the first RC on 
> > Friday and start the vote on Monday next week ? This will leave some
> > room to finish the missing bits. 
> > Could someone help to setup the Jenkins releases build ? It seems that I 
> > cannot create jobs with my account.
> > 
> > Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 14:08, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:casstarg...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > Sorry, Jim, I should have replied yesterday about the state of things with 
> > the Ref Guide - it's close. I'm doing the last bit of big review I need to 
> > do and am nearly done with that, then I have a couple more small things 
> > done (including SOLR-12763 which I just created since I forgot to do it 
> > earlier). My goal is to be done by the end of my day today so you could do 
> > the RC tomorrow, but who knows what the day will bring work-wise, so I'll 
> > send another mail at the end of the day my time to let you know for sure.
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:07 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > I just fixed the invalid version (7.5.1) that I added in master and 7x. The 
> > next version on these branches should be 7.6.0, sorry for the noise.
> > 
> > Le lun. 10 sept. 2018 à 09:26, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Feature freeze for 7.5 has started, I just created a branch_7_5.:
> > 
> > * No new features may be committed to the branch.
> > * Documentation patches, build patches and serious bug fixes may be 
> > committed to the branch. However, you should submit all patches you want to 
> > commit to Jira first to give others the chance to review and possibly vote 
> > against the patch. Keep in mind that it is our main intention to keep the 
> > branch as stable as possible.
> > * All patches that are intended for the branch should first be committed to 
> > the unstable branch, merged into the stable branch, and then into the 
> > current release branch.
> > * Normal unstable and stable branch development may continue as usual. 
> > However, if you plan to commit a big change to the unstable branch while 
> > the branch feature freeze is in effect, think twice: can't the addition 
> > wait a couple more days? Merges of bug fixes into the branch may become 
> > more difficult.
> > * Only Jira issues with Fix version "7.5" and priority "Blocker" will delay 
> > a release candidate build.
> > 
> > I'll create the first RC later this week depending on the status of the 
> > Solr ref guide. Cassandra, can you update the status when you think that 
> > the ref guide is ready (no rush just a reminder that we need to sync during 
> > this release ;) ) ?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Jim
> > 
> > Le mer. 5 sept. 2018 à 17:57, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > Great, thanks!
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:44 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure it can wait a few days. Let's cut the branch next Monday and we can 
> > > sync with Cassandra to create the first RC when the ref guide is ready.
> > >
> > > Le mer. 5 sept. 2018 à 17:27, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com 
> > > <mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> Jim:
> > >>
> > >> I know it's the 11th hour, but WDYT about cutting the branch next
> > >> Monday? We see a flurry of activity (announcing a release does
> > >> that....) and waiting to cut the branch might be easiest all 'round.
> > >>
> > >> Up to you of course, I can backport the test fixes I'd like for
> > >> instance and I'd like to get the upgraded ZooKeeper in 7.5.
> > >>
> > >> Erick
> > >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:04 PM Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com 
> > >> <mailto:casstarg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > It's not so much the building of the RC as giving the content a 
> > >> > detailed editorial review.
> > >> >
> > >> > The build/release process itself is well-documented and published with 
> > >> > every Ref Guide: 
> > >> > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/how-to-contribute.html#building-publishing-the-guide
> > >> >  
> > >> > <https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/how-to-contribute.html#building-publishing-the-guide>.
> > >> >  It was designed from the artifact process, so it's nearly identical 
> > >> > as a process. It's really barely a burden.
> > >> >
> > >> > In terms of preparing the content, there are a number of things I do:
> > >> >
> > >> > First, I try to ensure that every issue in CHANGES.txt that should be 
> > >> > documented has been documented. That involves an intensive review of 
> > >> > CHANGES.txt and a comparison with commits to find what might be 
> > >> > missing, then chasing people down to see if they intend to make 
> > >> > changes or not. Assuming the person responds, then it's waiting for 
> > >> > them to get their stuff done. This is usually about 2-3 days of 
> > >> > effort, before the waiting around for answers and/or commits.
> > >> >
> > >> > Then I review every commit and read it for clarity and correct English 
> > >> > usage. Does it fit where someone put it? Does it explain what the 
> > >> > author is hoping it explains? Also, many of our authors are not native 
> > >> > English writers, and deserve the assistance of an editor to help put 
> > >> > their work in the best possible light. In some cases, I feel I should 
> > >> > extensively edit the contribution, which occasionally involves also 
> > >> > immersing myself into the change itself. This is another 2-4 days of 
> > >> > effort.
> > >> >
> > >> > Then there's this list of problems people commit all the time, many of 
> > >> > which I can often resolve reasonably quickly with find/replace:
> > >> >
> > >> > - sentences that don't end in periods
> > >> > - inconsistency with instances of "i.e.," and "e.g.," (not "i.e.", 
> > >> > "ie:", "IE", etc.)
> > >> > - no spaces between words and punctuation (commas, colons, periods), 
> > >> > such as "here is :" or "word , word"
> > >> > - used sentence case for section titles instead of headline case
> > >> > - used abbreviations instead of the correct word ("ZK" instead of 
> > >> > "ZooKeeper" being the biggest one here, but also "params" instead of 
> > >> > "parameters" is quite common)
> > >> > - misspellings like "Zookeeper" instead of "ZooKeeper, or "solr" 
> > >> > instead of "Solr"
> > >> > - config file names and parameter names/values not in monospace
> > >> > - lists of parameters are not properly formatted (should not be in 
> > >> > tables)
> > >> >
> > >> > These are all to make the Ref Guide as consistent, cohesive, and easy 
> > >> > to read as possible. It may be written by 30 people but it shouldn't 
> > >> > read like it is.
> > >> >
> > >> > Should I do all this while the commits are coming through? Sure, but 
> > >> > the reality is I can't. If we want to release the moment someone 
> > >> > proposes a release, then most of my find/replace list above needs to 
> > >> > go into precommit so these problems don't make it into the Guide to 
> > >> > begin with. (Which might be onerous since we'd all get stalled waiting 
> > >> > for someone to fix a typo...but really, precommit is meant in part to 
> > >> > find your typos so why should this be different?)
> > >> >
> > >> > It would always still need editorial review, however, and that's not 
> > >> > something we'll ever be able to fully automate. I'm more than happy to 
> > >> > have a little help there, but assume since people aren't doing it 
> > >> > today they don't have time, don't feel they have the skills, or don't 
> > >> > want to bother. Or maybe I just kill myself for a level of quality no 
> > >> > one else cares about...not sure I can stop doing it though if I'm the 
> > >> > RM.
> > >> >
> > >> > (as a side note on that though, if we do merge the releases someday, 
> > >> > then whoever RMs is going to have to wait for these editorial 
> > >> > processes to be completed or the vote may fail because the Ref Guide 
> > >> > reads like crap.)
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:33 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > >> > <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks for explaining the situation Cassandra. I was planning to 
> > >> >> build the first RC beginning of next week to give people a week to 
> > >> >> discover blockers. I can certainly slow down things but I don't think 
> > >> >> that the timing
> > >> >> differs from other releases. I am not aware of the operations that 
> > >> >> are required for the Ref guide release process but what do you think 
> > >> >> of sharing the tasks with the RM ? We could even merge the two 
> > >> >> releases and make the RM responsible of both if the process is 
> > >> >> documented.  I'd be happy to experiment this for the 7.5 release if 
> > >> >> you want.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 17:55, Cassandra Targett 
> > >> >> <casstarg...@gmail.com <mailto:casstarg...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I'm not objecting per se, but I feel like we used to propose a 
> > >> >>> version and then give people a week before the branch was cut. Maybe 
> > >> >>> that was just RM choice? From a personal perspective, I much prefer 
> > >> >>> that model because the Ref Guide requires A LOT of my attention and 
> > >> >>> my work there kicks into high gear as soon as a release is proposed.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Even though the artifact and Ref Guide release processes are 
> > >> >>> separate today, we want them to be a single process, so I need to 
> > >> >>> act as though your timeframe for the RC is the deadline for Ref 
> > >> >>> Guide edits to do an RC of the Ref Guide at the same time. That 
> > >> >>> means I'm on your timetable, no matter what else I may have promised 
> > >> >>> to my bosses and colleagues. It's stressful already to try to get it 
> > >> >>> all done - I usually don't finish everything I want to do - and 
> > >> >>> adding the burden of having to backport everything to 2 branches 
> > >> >>> instead of 1 just makes it tedious as well.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Also, yesterday was a major holiday in the US, and as of this moment 
> > >> >>> it's not even noon on the East Coast, so there's a percentage of the 
> > >> >>> community who may not even have seen your proposal yet.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I greatly appreciate that you've volunteered to do the release and 
> > >> >>> are energized to get it rolling, but is there a reason an RC has to 
> > >> >>> be done by the beginning of next week?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:36 AM Joel Bernstein <joels...@gmail.com 
> > >> >>> <mailto:joels...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> +1,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I'll likely be adding some Solr RefGuide changes later in the week 
> > >> >>>> to the 7.5 branch but I'll make sure they don't effect the build.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Joel Bernstein
> > >> >>>> http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/ <http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:52 AM jim ferenczi 
> > >> >>>> <jim.feren...@gmail.com <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Thanks all,
> > >> >>>>> since there are no objections I am planning to cut the branch for 
> > >> >>>>> 7.5 tomorrow. I'll build the first RC early next week so there 
> > >> >>>>> will be some room to merge important bug fixes later this week. 
> > >> >>>>> All blockers except SOLR-12727 seem to be merged/resolved, I'll 
> > >> >>>>> watch the remaining solr issue for updates.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 10:21, jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com 
> > >> >>>>> <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Sure Jan, this is a nice cleanup, +1 to backport in 7x.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 10:16, Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com 
> > >> >>>>>> <mailto:jan....@cominvent.com>> a écrit :
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Jim, we have some release process improvements in LUCENE-5143. 
> > >> >>>>>>> Basically, we'll only have one KEYS file instead of three plus 
> > >> >>>>>>> those in the versioned folders that we have today. And the 
> > >> >>>>>>> release py script will start checking that the RM's key is 
> > >> >>>>>>> present in the KEYS file. Would you be ok with that being 
> > >> >>>>>>> committed and you being the first RM to use it for 7.5.0?
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> --
> > >> >>>>>>> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> > >> >>>>>>> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com <http://www.cominvent.com/>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> 3. sep. 2018 kl. 10:42 skrev jim ferenczi 
> > >> >>>>>>> <jim.feren...@gmail.com <mailto:jim.feren...@gmail.com>>:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> 7.4 has been released two months ago on June 29th and we have 
> > >> >>>>>>> new features, enhancements and fixes that are not released yet 
> > >> >>>>>>> so I'd like to start working on releasing Lucene/Solr 7.5.0.
> > >> >>>>>>> There's also a bad bug with index sorting that deletes the wrong 
> > >> >>>>>>> documents when delete by query is used:
> > >> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8466 
> > >> >>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8466>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> I can create the 7.5 branch later this week and build the first 
> > >> >>>>>>> RC early next week if that works for everyone. Please let me 
> > >> >>>>>>> know if there are bug fixes that needs to be fixed in 7.5 and 
> > >> >>>>>>> might not be ready by then.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >> >>>>>>> Jim
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >>
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