+1, this gives us all a chance to prioritize getting the blockers out
of the way in a careful manner.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:56 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 too. With this new perspective we could create the branch just after the 
> 7.6 release and target the 8.0 release for January 2019 which gives almost 3 
> month to finish the blockers ?
>
> Le jeu. 18 oct. 2018 à 23:56, David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> a écrit 
> :
>>
>> +1 to a 7.6 —lots of stuff in there
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 4:47 PM Nicholas Knize <nkn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If we're planning to postpone cutting an 8.0 branch until a few weeks from 
>>> now then I'd like to propose (and volunteer to RM) a 7.6 release targeted 
>>> for late November or early December (following the typical 2 month release 
>>> pattern). It feels like this might give a little breathing room for 
>>> finishing up 8.0 blockers? And looking at the change log there appear to be 
>>> a healthy list of features, bug fixes, and improvements to both Solr and 
>>> Lucene that warrant a 7.6 release? Personally I wouldn't mind releasing the 
>>> LatLonShape encoding changes in LUCENE-8521 and selective indexing work 
>>> done in LUCENE-8496. Any objections or thoughts?
>>>
>>> - Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:32 AM Đạt Cao Mạnh <caomanhdat...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Cassandra and Jim,
>>>>
>>>> I created a blocker issue for Solr 8.0 SOLR-12883, currently in jira/http2 
>>>> branch there are a draft-unmature implementation of SPNEGO authentication 
>>>> which enough to makes the test pass, this implementation will be removed 
>>>> when SOLR-12883 gets resolved . Therefore I don't see any problem on 
>>>> merging jira/http2 to master branch in the next week.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:33 AM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > But if you're working with a different assumption - that just the 
>>>>> > existence of the branch does not stop Dat from still merging his work 
>>>>> > and the work being included in 8.0 - then I agree, waiting for him to 
>>>>> > merge doesn't need to stop the creation of the branch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes that's my reasoning. This issue is a blocker so we won't release 
>>>>> without it but we can work on the branch in the meantime and let other 
>>>>> people work on new features that are not targeted to 8.
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 20:51, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com> a 
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK - I was making an assumption that the timeline for the first 8.0 RC 
>>>>>> would be ASAP after the branch is created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a common perception that making a branch freezes adding new 
>>>>>> features to the release, perhaps in an unofficial way (more of a 
>>>>>> courtesy rather than a rule). But if you're working with a different 
>>>>>> assumption - that just the existence of the branch does not stop Dat 
>>>>>> from still merging his work and the work being included in 8.0 - then I 
>>>>>> agree, waiting for him to merge doesn't need to stop the creation of the 
>>>>>> branch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If, however, once the branch is there people object to Dat merging his 
>>>>>> work because it's "too late", then the branch shouldn't be created yet 
>>>>>> because we want to really try to clear that blocker for 8.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cassandra
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:13 PM jim ferenczi <jim.feren...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok thanks for answering.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > - I think Solr needs a couple more weeks since the work Dat is doing 
>>>>>>> > isn't quite done yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can wait a few more weeks to create the branch but I don't think 
>>>>>>> that one action (creating the branch) prevents the other (the work Dat 
>>>>>>> is doing).
>>>>>>> HTTP/2 is one of the blocker for the release but it can be done in 
>>>>>>> master and backported to the appropriate branch as any other feature ? 
>>>>>>> We just need an issue with the blocker label to ensure that
>>>>>>> we don't miss it ;). Creating the branch early would also help in case 
>>>>>>> you don't want to release all the work at once in 8.0.0.
>>>>>>> Next week was just a proposal, what I meant was soon because we target 
>>>>>>> a release in a few months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 17:52, Cassandra Targett <casstarg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMO next week is a bit too soon for the branch - I think Solr needs a 
>>>>>>>> couple more weeks since the work Dat is doing isn't quite done yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Solr needs the HTTP/2 work Dat has been doing, and he told me 
>>>>>>>> yesterday he feels it is nearly ready to be merged into master. 
>>>>>>>> However, it does require a new release of Jetty to Solr is able to 
>>>>>>>> retain Kerberos authentication support (Dat has been working with that 
>>>>>>>> team to help test the changes Jetty needs to support Kerberos with 
>>>>>>>> HTTP/2). They should get that release out soon, but we are dependent 
>>>>>>>> on them a little bit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He can hopefully reply with more details on his status and what else 
>>>>>>>> needs to be done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once Dat merges his work, IMO we should leave it in master for a 
>>>>>>>> little bit. While he has been beasting and testing with Jenkins as he 
>>>>>>>> goes along, I think it would be good to have all the regular master 
>>>>>>>> builds work on it for a little bit also.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of the other blockers, the only other large-ish one is to fully remove 
>>>>>>>> Trie* fields, which some of us also discussed yesterday and it seemed 
>>>>>>>> we concluded that Solr isn't really ready to do that. The performance 
>>>>>>>> issues with single value lookups are a major obstacle. It would be 
>>>>>>>> nice if someone with a bit more experience with that could comment in 
>>>>>>>> the issue (SOLR-12632) and/or unmark it as a blocker.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cassandra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM Erick Erickson 
>>>>>>>> <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I find 9 open blockers for 8.0:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Blocker%20AND%20status%20%3D%20OPEN
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As David mentioned, many of the SOlr committers are at Activate, which
>>>>>>>>> ends Thursday so feedback (and work) may be a bit delayed.
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:11 AM David Smiley 
>>>>>>>>> <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks for volunteering to do the 8.0 release Jim!
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Many of us are at the Activate Conference in Montreal.  We had a 
>>>>>>>>> > committers meeting where we discussed some of the blockers.  I 
>>>>>>>>> > think only a couple items were raised.  I'll leave Dat to discuss 
>>>>>>>>> > the one on HTTP2.  On the Solr nested docs front, I articulated one 
>>>>>>>>> > and we mostly came to a decision on how to do it.  It's not "hard" 
>>>>>>>>> > just a matter of how to hook in some functionality so that it's 
>>>>>>>>> > user-friendly.  I'll file an issue for this.  Inexplicably I'm 
>>>>>>>>> > sheepish about marking issues "blocker" but I shouldn't be.  I'll 
>>>>>>>>> > file that issue and look at another issue or two that ought to be 
>>>>>>>>> > blockers.  Nothing is "hard" or tons of work that is in my sphere 
>>>>>>>>> > of work.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On the Lucene side, I will commit 
>>>>>>>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7875 RE MultiFields 
>>>>>>>>> > either late tonight or tomorrow when I have time.  It's ready to be 
>>>>>>>>> > committed; just sitting there.  It's a minor thing but important to 
>>>>>>>>> > make this change now before 8.0.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > I personally plan to spend more time on the upcoming weeks on a few 
>>>>>>>>> > of these 8.0 things.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > ~ David
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:21 AM jim ferenczi 
>>>>>>>>> > <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> >> We still have two blockers for the Lucene 8 release:
>>>>>>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7075?jql=(project%3D%22Lucene%20-%20Core%22%20%20OR%20project%3DSOLR)%20AND%20priority%3DBlocker%20and%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20
>>>>>>>>> >> We're planning to work on these issues in the coming days, are 
>>>>>>>>> >> there any other blockers (not in the list) on Solr side.
>>>>>>>>> >> Now that Lucene 7.5 is released I'd like to create a Lucene 8 
>>>>>>>>> >> branch soon (next week for instance ? ). There are some work to do 
>>>>>>>>> >> to make sure that all tests pass, add the new version...
>>>>>>>>> >> I can take care of it if there are no objections. Creating the 
>>>>>>>>> >> branch in advance would help to stabilize this version (people can 
>>>>>>>>> >> continue to work on new features that are not targeted for 8.0) and
>>>>>>>>> >> we can discuss the best date for the release when all blockers are 
>>>>>>>>> >> resolved. What do you think ?
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 11:32, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> a 
>>>>>>>>> >> écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Đạt, is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12639 the 
>>>>>>>>> >>> right issue for HTTP/2 support? Should we make it a blocker for 
>>>>>>>>> >>> 8.0?
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 23:37, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> a 
>>>>>>>>> >>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> For the record here is the JIRA query for blockers that Erick 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> referred to: 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-12720?jql=(project%3D%22Lucene%20-%20Core%22%20%20OR%20project%3DSOLR)%20AND%20priority%3DBlocker%20and%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 10:36, jim ferenczi 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> <jim.feren...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Ok thanks Đạt and Erick. I'll follow the blockers on Jira.  Đạt 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> do you have an issue opened for the HTTP/2 support ?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Le ven. 31 août 2018 à 16:40, Erick Erickson 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <erickerick...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> There's also the issue of what to do as far as removing Trie* 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I think there's a blocker JIRA.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> project = SOLR AND priority = Blocker AND resolution = 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Unresolved
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Shows 6 blockers
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:12 AM Đạt Cao Mạnh 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <caomanhdat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi Jim,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > I really want to introduce the support of HTTP/2 into Solr 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > 8.0 (currently cooked in jira/http2 branch). The changes of 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > that branch are less than Star Burst effort and closer to be 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > merged into master branch.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:55 PM jim ferenczi 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> > <jim.feren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> I'd like to get some feedback regarding the upcoming 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Lucene/Solr 8 release. There are still some cleanups and 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> docs to add on the Lucene side but it seems that all 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> blockers are resolved.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> From a Solr perspective are there any important changes 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> that need to be done or are we still good with the October 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> target for the release ? Adrien mentioned the Star Burst 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> effort some time ago, is it something that is planned for 8 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> ?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Jim
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 19:02, David Smiley 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >> <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Yes, that new BKD/Points based code is definitely 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> something we want in 8 or 7.5 -- it's a big deal.  I think 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> it would also be awesome if we had highlighter that could 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> use the Weight.matches() API -- again for either 7.5 or 8. 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>  I'm working on this on the UnifiedHighlighter front and 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Alan from other aspects.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ~ David
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:51 PM Adrien Grand 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> I was hoping that we would release some bits of this new 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> support for geo shapes in 7.5 already. We are already 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> very close to being able to index points, lines and 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> polygons and query for intersection with an envelope. It 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> would be nice to add support for other relations (eg. 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> disjoint) and queries (eg. polygon) but the current work 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> looks already useful to me.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> Le mer. 1 août 2018 à 17:00, Robert Muir 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> <rcm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> My only other suggestion is we may want to get Nick's 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> shape stuff into
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the sandbox module at least for 8.0 so that it can be 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> tested out. I
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> think it looks like that wouldn't delay any October 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> target though?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Adrien Grand 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > I'd like to revive this thread now that these new 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > optimizations for
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > collection of top docs are more usable and enabled by 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > default in
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > IndexSearcher 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8060). 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > Any
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > feedback about starting to work towards releasing 8.0 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > and targeting October
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > 2018?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 09:31, Adrien Grand 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > <jpou...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> I agree we need to make it more usable before 8.0. I 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> would also like to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> improve ReqOptSumScorer 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8204)
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> to leverage impacts so that queries that incorporate 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> queries on feature
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> fields 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8197) 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> in an optional
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> clause are also fast.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> Le jeu. 21 juin 2018 à 03:06, Robert Muir 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> <rcm...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> How can the end user actually use the biggest new 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> feature: impacts and
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> BMW? As far as I can tell, the issue to actually 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> implement the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> necessary API changes (IndexSearcher/TopDocs/etc) is 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> still open and
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> unresolved, although there are some interesting 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> ideas on it. This
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> seems like a really big missing piece, without a 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> proper API, the stuff
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> is not really usable. I also can't imagine a 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> situation where the API
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> could be introduced in a followup minor release 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> because it would be
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> too invasive.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Adrien Grand 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > I would like to start discussing releasing 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Lucene/Solr 8.0. Lucene 8
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > already
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > has some good changes around scoring, notably 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > cleanups to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > similarities[1][2][3], indexing of impacts[4], and 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > an implementation of
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Block-Max WAND[5] which, once combined, allow to 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > run queries faster
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > when
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > total hit counts are not requested.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [1] 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8116
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [2] 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8020
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [3] 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8007
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [4] 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-4198
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [5] 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8135
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > In terms of bug fixes, there is also a bad 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > relevancy bug[6] which is
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > only in
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > 8.0 because it required a breaking change[7] to be 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > implemented.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [6] 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8031
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > [7] 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-8134
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > As usual, doing a new major release will also help 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > age out old codecs,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > which
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > in-turn make maintenance easier: 8.0 will no 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > longer need to care about
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > fact that some codecs were initially implemented 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > with a random-access
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > API
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > for doc values, that pre-7.0 indices encoded norms 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > differently, or that
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > pre-6.2 indices could not record an index sort.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > I also expect that we will come up with ideas of 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > things to do for 8.0
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > as we
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > feel that the next major is getting closer. In 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > terms of planning, I was
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > thinking that we could target something like 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > october 2018, which would
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > be
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > 12-13 months after 7.0 and 3-4 months from now.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > From a Solr perspective, the main change I'm aware 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > of that would be
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > worth
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > releasing a new major is the Star Burst effort. Is 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > it something we want
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > get in for 8.0?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > Adrien
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>
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