Why even "cluster mode" or "cloud mode"?

Solr, by default , should use the cluster mode. So in all our
documentation, we should use just "Solr" and it should refer to a
"cluster mode of Solr"

Wherever we don't have a "cluster mode" should be explicitly qualified
as "standalone Solr"

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:24 PM David Smiley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I hear you and sympathize but "SolrCloud" has been used long enough that I 
> doubt the trouble is worth it.  I guess that makes me "+0".  That said, I 
> think it wouldn't hurt to formalize "standalone mode" as-such and perhaps say 
> more explicitly that SolrCloud == "cluster mode" even if we don't eliminate 
> SolrCloud terminology.
>
> And as SolrCloud ... errr... "cluster mode" I mean, gains in usage relative 
> to "standalone mode", perhaps we can reference SolrCloud less often and sorta 
> assume that and instead make exceptions in documentation to standalone mode 
> specifics where we call that out as such.  It's a loose idea; I'm don't have 
> an example in mind.
>
> Similar to the above notion, maybe "CloudSolrClient" could be more invisible 
> without renaming it.  Imagine SolrClient.createFromZooKeeper() etc. static 
> methods that instantiate CloudSolrClient by default.  Just a thought.
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:19 AM Shawn Heisey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 9/30/2019 6:59 AM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote:
>> > I propose that we rename SolrCloud mode to "cluster mode" such that
>> > there shall be "Apache Solr", running in either "standalone mode" or
>> > "cluster mode". We can effect this renaming 9.0 onwards, if we have
>> > consensus.
>> >
>> > I am open to any other proposal as well, so long as we drop the "cloud"
>> > in the name.
>>
>> I see your point, but I think that "cloud" is so entrenched in the
>> overall consciousness of the software that changing it will not be easy.
>>
>> Maybe it might be something we could accomplish slowly, over the rest of
>> 8.0's lifetime and the entire 9.0 lifetime.  Begin changing the
>> terminology we use in communication, start shifting documentation and
>> code, with a hard cutover in a later major version, perhaps 10.0 or 11.0.
>>
>> The level of effort involved would be considerable, whether it happens
>> quickly or slowly.  It might be the kind of thing we just don't want to
>> try and do.
>>
>> I'm not opposed to the idea, and I might even be able to help, but it's
>> going to need a lot of buy-in from those of us who work on Solr.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shawn
>>
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