I agree with the general consensus here. There should be a minimal
SolrJ client that has just one jar and zero dependencies

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:54 AM Jan Høydahl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I added a comment to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-599 
> "Lightweight SolrJ client" From June 2008 (!)
> Let’s continue discussion there?
>
> Jan
>
> 19. feb. 2020 kl. 16:19 skrev David Smiley <[email protected]>:
>
> I definitely care about this issue. I like the idea of splitting off a 
> solr-zk module. Few people know that CloudSolrClient can do a pure HTTP mode 
> to get cluster state indirectly from ZK via Solr, thus no necessity of 
> talking with ZK and what that entails architecturally (security concerns).
>
> Whenever someone proposes changes to SolrJ impacting dependencies, we need to 
> be super clear about that; needs it’s own issue or dev list message 
> announcement. Code reviews will help. I can’t stand dependency creep in SolrJ!
>
> (FYI I have almost no internet connectivity this week. )
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 7:26 PM Jan Høydahl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The netty deps are there solely because they are needed by zookeeper client 
>> when talking to zookeeper over the new https transport with netty.
>> So a quick win would be to make a solrj-zk.jar which depends on 
>> zookeeper-client.jar along with netty and its other dependencies, and thus 
>> keep solrj-core clean of these.
>>
>> It would be great to be able to choose what HTTP lib to use in SolrJ. 
>> Obviously you want Jetty-HTTP2-client to do fancy things such as 
>> bring-your-own-client with interceptors and what not, but for the simple 
>> case we should be just fine with Java11 client in solrj-core.
>>
>> Looking at the solrj module there are 756 Java classes in there. So we use 
>> SolrJ as some common module and perhaps it is a bit too easy to just throw 
>> new stuff in there,, not really considering this is all going to end up in 
>> every user’s classpath + dependencies?
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> 17. feb. 2020 kl. 23:24 skrev Robert Muir <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Yes why would this library have any dependencies at all? In trunk java 11 is 
>> a minimum, and JDK11+ has HTTP client capable of HTTP/2, https, etc. So 
>> seeing both netty and jetty client libraries makes no sense at all.
>>
>> https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/docs/api/java.net.http/java/net/http/package-summary.html
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 6:44 AM Jan Høydahl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> According to 
>>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.solr/solr-solrj/8.4.1 SolrJ 
>>> now has 29 compile-time dependencies. Those are the ones explicitly 
>>> mentioned in ivy.xml and I believe that the number would be even higher if 
>>> we used transitive dependencies.
>>> That means that if you want to include SolrJ in a small app for just 
>>> searching Solr, you get a ton of dependencies in your project that you may 
>>> not need and that increase the chance of collision with other libs in your 
>>> all.
>>>
>>> So I want to raise the question whether it is time to take some action here.
>>>
>>> Otions may include:
>>>
>>> Get rid of unneeded deps
>>> Explicitly exclude deps from gradle build that we know we do not need
>>> Modularize SolrJ into a solrj-core and solrj-xxx, where solrj-core would be 
>>> the minimum anyone would need to do the basics
>>> Look into shading select libs that often cause collisions
>>>
>>>
>>> Let the discussion begin :)
>>>
>>> Jan
>>
>>
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