I think some expressions are SolrCloud specific, but there are
expressions that work in standalone

e.g. https://paste.apache.org/zm3sw and https://paste.apache.org/vs35m

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:53 AM Eric Pugh
<ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
>
> Can you do streaming expression in standalone solr?   I was under the 
> impression that it required SolrCloud.
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> It is not just a directory. There is a security feature that only
> allows to read from several file locations (configurable in solr.xml).
> Userfiles is part of default list, so whatever replacement is there
> will need to be explicitly-named as well.
>
> Regards,
>   Alex.
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 11:43, Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> You're left with the <solrhome>/filestore/ dir to put there what you want in 
> standalone mode.
>
> That's fine by me as that's effectively what "userfiles" provides now.
> The main difference I imagine is that the 'filestore' directory won't
> exist at all in standalone? In that case standalone users will have to
> know where to create the dir if they want to reference 'filestore'
> files in their streaming expressions.  But that's not all that much
> more to ask I guess.
>
> I'm curious - is the filestore unimplemented in standalone because no
> one prioritized it, or is there a specific technical blocker?
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:24 AM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> The "userfiles" thing is merely a directory.  There's no CRUD API on it.  
> Even if the CRUD API of the file store isn't active in standalone -- I think 
> that doesn't matter.  You're left with the <solrhome>/filestore/ dir to put 
> there what you want in standalone mode.
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:00 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
> <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Standalone isn't supported.
>
> We need to transition away from the standalone mode and get rid of it 
> completely.
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep, 2020, 7:50 pm Jason Gerlowski, <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't know much about the new package/file-store, but it does sound
> like a good replacement for 'userfiles' (which Eric is right- is
> pretty awkward to work with).
>
> My only concerns with using the filestore would be around its
> availability.  Is it enabled by default (or will it be in an upcoming
> release)?  Does it work in standalone as well as SolrCloud?  If the
> answer to those questions are both "yes", then it makes sense to me as
> a replacement on the face of things.
>
> Jason
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 9:39 AM Eric Pugh
> <ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
>
>
> +1.  I’ve found the user files really useful when doing things with 
> streaming, but it’s also awkward to reach to put files into.
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2020, at 8:47 AM, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Yes.  And I think it's high time that coreRootDirectory default to 
> <solrhome>/something (e.g. "cores")
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:42 AM Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
> Would that file store also be under solr.home? Because if it is and
> the user can upload core.property into it as well as other things that
> core discovery will then load bypassing security....
>
> Regards,
>  Alex.
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 08:32, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> I'm looking to see that we can deprecate "userfiles" and remove for 9.0
>
> Solr has a "userfiles" directory under Solr home that Jason added in some 
> issue relating to streaming expressions accessing a local file.  I bet only a 
> few of you have even heard of it.  I think the "File Store" that came along 
> with the package manager obsoletes "userfiles".  If you have not heard of the 
> file store either, I wouldn't be surprised -- it's new and it's name was 
> changed from "package store" last minute, since it's general purpose, with 
> "packages" being a directory at the root of the file store for packages.  
> It's documented as the "package store" (should be renamed) on the package 
> manager internals doc: 
> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/package-manager-internals.html#package-store
> However IMO it's worthy of its own doc page as it's a very useful new 
> component of the Solr platform.  It can store "user files" (hence obsoleting 
> the userfiles dir), ML models, or basically any file that's too large to put 
> in ZK.  I'd be nice if SolrResourceLoader could resolve resources from it -- 
> an issue for another day.  That would be another avenue of use separate from 
> the configSet.  You can already upload single files to the file store :-)
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
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