Core reloads cause caches to be invalidated, hence the query response times shoot up momentarily. This doesn't happen when using managed synonyms etc, does it?
On Wed, 30 Sep, 2020, 5:53 pm David Smiley, <[email protected]> wrote: > Definitely don't remove in 8.x! > > > A single file configset upload would require the user to reload the > collection, so it isn't better than managed resources. > > Do you view that as a substantial point in favor of managed-resources? I > view that as a trivial matter, and one I prefer to automagic and > potentially premature reload if there are additional edits to be done (e.g. > query-elevation or other word lists). > > ~ David Smiley > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:46 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > * Nobody knows how it works. It's unsupported >> It is supported and documented: >> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/managed-resources.html >> >> > * RESTlet dependency >> > * Cannot be secured using standard permissions >> > * It's extremely complex for the functionality it offers. >> >> I agree. Whatever alternative we build should address these, before we >> consider removing managed resources. >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The managed resources is the only reasonable way to upload synonyms on >>> the fly for users today. A single file configset upload would require the >>> user to reload the collection, so it isn't better than managed resources. I >>> would not recommend we remove the functionality without first building a >>> suitable alternative. I agree that the feature isn't built using proper >>> framework or proper APIs, but it is a feature that works well. >>> >>> Usually, I support throwing features out even without existence of an >>> alternative, but I do that for non essential features. In my mind, ability >>> to manage synonyms elegantly is an essential feature for a search engine. >>> >>> On Wed, 30 Sep, 2020, 2:44 pm Uwe Schindler, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Please don't do this. >>>> >>>> In short: remove restlet stuff from master. Pull requests on master are >>>> executed with Gradle on GitHub hardware. >>>> >>>> Ivy stuff in 8.x is built in more or less persistent servers and there >>>> is no issue. >>>> >>>> What's the problem? >>>> >>>> Uwe >>>> >>>> Am September 30, 2020 8:59:06 AM UTC schrieb Ishan Chattopadhyaya < >>>> [email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> Can we discuss this with ASF and get an exception for this? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep, 2020, 11:57 am Dawid Weiss, <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We can't have or redistribute binaries in ASL sources - that's my >>>>>> understanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dawid >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:02 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Can we pull in the jar inside our codebase? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Wed, 30 Sep, 2020, 1:19 am Dawid Weiss, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> We can upgrade if it doesn't break anything... which I can't >>>>>> guarantee. ;) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Dawid >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Uwe Schindler >>>> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de >>>> >>>
