Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
rather than simply ignored.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168

With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
take for branch_9_9!

When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
make it work...crickets.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
>
> I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
>
> The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
> this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
> compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the 
> > past. I'll start a separate thread.
> >
> > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >>
> >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. 
> >> Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
> >>
> >> Uwe
> >>
> >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <[email protected]>:
> >>>
> >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We 
> >>> typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch 
> >>> release?
> >>>
> >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it 
> >>>> succeeded:
> >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
> >>>>
> >>>> See here for log: 
> >>>> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
> >>>>
> >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with 
> >>>> my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs 
> >>>> first.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for 
> >>>> the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still 
> >>>> need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 
> >>>> 8.11.x ones, right?
> >>>>
> >>>> Uwe
> >>>>
> >>>> -----
> >>>> Uwe Schindler
> >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
> >>>> eMail: [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <[email protected]>
> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <[email protected]>
> >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >>>> >
> >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > [ ] +1  approve
> >>>> > [ ] +0  no opinion
> >>>> > [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Here is my +1
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > Adrien
> >>>> >
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> >> --
> >> Uwe Schindler
> >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
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