Thank you Robert for your feedback.

I'm also sorry if my previous mail was urging explicit feedback - I
understand such a request goes against the "lazy consensus" practice in
Apache.
I'd be grateful to hear thoughts or simply +1 / -1 / +-0 from developers
who are actually affected by this proposal if you are interested.

Thanks,
Tomoko


2022年5月10日(火) 9:36 Robert Muir <[email protected]>:

> On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 7:59 PM Tomoko Uchida
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Also, I have a great deal to be concerned about "what active
> committers/contributors on Lucene actually think of it".
> >
>
> I have a couple thoughts.
>
> 1. What percentage of contributions are done via pull requests versus
> via patch files these days? I'm always happy to commit a patch, but I
> just don't see them. I'm still happy to commit a patch sent to the
> mailing list. I feel that requiring JIRA is just unnecessarily
> invoking another tool, another signup process, unnecessary hurdle. If
> someone wants to send a patch to the mailing list, e.g. from the user
> list as part of a discussion, that's fine.
> 2. Realistically, every committer actively merging/committing is using
> github today already. This proposal doesn't make their life any more
> difficult. They already have their github account setup. It makes life
> easier for the *contributor*, which is what I want.
> 3. Around concerns of github "censorship" and certain countries, this
> doesn't affect public repositories, just private ones. It has to do
> with sanctions and money and so on. I see you committed Persian
> Stemmer from an Iranian contributor just this morning. This is not a
> problem.
> 4. Still along these lines, I tested this stuff from behind chinese
> great firewall this morning, to have the full experience myself.
> lucene.apache.org site is extremely fast, fastly CDN! github.com was a
> bit slower to load, but not terrible. Loading up JIRA
> (issues.apache.org) was very slow, required both getting and drinking
> another coffee. It is some machine out there in hetzner germany, which
> may be the issue. At the same time, I think it is unreasonable to ask
> infra to "cluster" the JIRA for better access around the world,
> because that's absurdly scary from a technical perspective. So I'm
> happy if we can streamline the contribution process and make it easier
> for folks outside of US and europe.
>
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