Bill, ASF policy is that discussions that don't need to be private should not be.
Steve -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:42 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Maven Why are you debating this here? Isn't there a PMC place to discuss topics with the main PMC members? Bill Bell Sent from mobile On Apr 27, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Steven A Rowe <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Benson, > > On 4/27/2012 at 8:36 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Steven A Rowe <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 4/27/2012 at 9:10 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>> 1: Should the Lucene PMC publish maven artifacts at all? >>>> >>>> - There seems to remain a consensus of the community: "Yes". >>> >>> Not really: consensus means unanimous agreement. >> >> No, consensus means no one chooses to block consensus. And since >> Maven is in place, it would take a decision by consensus to remove >> it. > > According to <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>, procedural votes > require majority approval, not concensus. > > But maybe you're referring to the code change vote procedure, which > allows a single PMC member to veto code changes? IMHO, Maven support > in Lucene/Solr doesn't qualify as code. (Simple test: does Maven > support - the POMs - ship with the source releases? The answer is > no.) > >> Much email has been sent on the premise that Maven specially and >> uniquely raises certain IP and policy issues. It doesn't. >> It does offer some constraints and opportunities for coping with >> these issues. > > AFAICT, Lucene/Solr completely complies with ASF policies, and will continue > to do so - this is a requirement for the continued existence of the project > under ASF governance. > > By contrast, Maven's "offered constraints", including its separate publishing > platform, present challenges that need to be addressed separately, at a cost > that the project is not required to bear. The nature of those challenges > (IP/policy/whatever) is IMHO immaterial. > >> However, if I'm not being helpful, and it seems that I'm not, I'll return to >> lurking. > > I value your opinions even though I may not always share them. And I > certainly welcome your assistance in meeting the challenges of keeping Maven > in-house here. > > Steve > > Т > ХF > V 7V'67& &R R âFWb V 7V'67& &T V6V R 6 R &pФf "FF F 6 > G2 R âFWbֆV V6V R 6 R &pР --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
