Sounds good.

But which maven features are we using that cause problems?  Surely our
project structure is about as simple as it gets for multi-module maven
projects.

For that matter, you could say that maven's project structure makes it
harder for vi users.  If there is something to be done to help that without
losing maven, I am happy for the vi users to do it.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Jeff Eastman <[email protected]>wrote:

> Sure, but if the Maven features we use, or the way in which we use them,
> disenfranchise the users of an important IDE then I think we are doing our
> customers a disservice. This is just like many web-based products which
> work only on IE; they restrict themselves to that browser user base. It
> takes some extra work to support all the versions of all the popular
> browsers but many organizations feel it is worth the effort.
>
> I think we should make a conscious decision in this case not to
> disenfranchise the Eclipse community.
>
>
>
> On 12/5/11 1:10 PM, Sean Owen wrote:
>
>> We shouldn't support anything but Maven itself. Its up to the IDEs to
>> support Maven then. If IntelliJ does it better then maybe people will
>> favor
>> it but that's up to the user. I don't think we should favor any IDE by
>> itself.
>> On Dec 5, 2011 7:41 PM, "Jeff 
>> Eastman"<jdog@**windwardsolutions.com<[email protected]>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  I will check that out today and report back.
>>>
>>> The larger issue I see is that, by doing all of our maven development in
>>> IntelliJ and not keeping Eclipse working as a viable IDE option, that we
>>> are not doing a good job of supporting our customer base. All the shops
>>> I've worked in for the last ten years have been Eclipse shops. I echo
>>> Benson's concern about the amount of neural energy needed to make the
>>> switch, and forcing that switch in order to do Mahout-based development
>>> will certainly make us less useful in those organizations which, for
>>> better
>>> or worse, are Eclipse shops too.
>>>
>>> I don't know yet what issues are preventing me from working in Eclipse
>>> Indigo + m2e 1.0 but they are reproducible and I think it is a very high
>>> priority to figure them out and resolve them.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 12/4/11 6:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>
>>>  Do the eclipse files that I posted on dropbox do any good for eclipse?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Benson Margulies<bimargulies@gmail.****
>>>> com<[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>  If you can add intellij helpfulness to the mahout tree, please do.
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Ted Dunning<[email protected]>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Can't intelliJ export eclipse projects?  (it has a menu item with that
>>>>>> promise)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take a look at 
>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/****36863361/eclipse.tgz<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**36863361/eclipse.tgz>
>>>>>> <http://**dl.dropbox.com/u/36863361/**eclipse.tgz<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36863361/eclipse.tgz>>which
>>>>>> is the
>>>>>> result me doing that on a modified mahout directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that shows promise, I can do it on trunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>

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