Cool! Glad to hear it. On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov wrote:
> finding a (java) type in eclipse: ctrl-shift-T. Finding a resource > (i.e. file) : ctrl-shft-R. Experience is virtually identical to IJ's. > :) > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Grant Ingersoll <[email protected]> wrote: >> Can't help but join in and give my IJ testimonial and/or Eclipse FUD, >> depending on which one you use. :-) >> >> I'm like Ted, I've got 10+ years of IJ keymappings in my fingers. I just >> find IJ feels like it was done by people who get how programmers want to >> work. For instance, I was looking up Mahout files w/ a user in Eclipse the >> other day. We knew what the file name was. That seemingly simple act in IJ >> is one shortcut (apple-n) plus 2 or 3 letters (the first few letters of the >> name, else the "inner caps" of the name, i.e. typing "EDM" gets me the >> EuclideanDistanceMeasure -- note, this also works for symbol names and >> regular file names, albeit w/ slightly different shortcuts). Him doing it >> in Eclipse involved at least four mouse clicks to get to the search menu, >> etc. and then typing out the name of the class. It was painful. Of course, >> there may be shorter ways, but as a long time Eclipse user, this user didn't >> know them. I found that sad, as it was literally the difference between 2-3 >> seconds versus 30-60 seconds (including the search time) in Eclipse just to >> find one file that we already knew the name of but not the package. >> Multiply that by the number of times you look up a file in a day. YMMV and >> perhaps it is FUD, but that has been my observation of most Eclipse users. >> >> I also find in trainings that I give, Eclipse users always struggle with >> project setup. Now, this could be because of my IJ bias, but it just >> doesn't seem to be as intuitive to them to get started, even though both >> sets of users start from the same base. >> >> FWIW, IntelliJ has an "Eclipse" keymap mode. Go to the IJ settings >> (preferences). Choose Keymap. Choose Eclipse. They also have Netbeans, >> Emacs and JBuilder. In other words, your 10 years of Eclipse may not be >> wasted. >> >> Last but not least, ASF committers can get the full version of IJ for free >> for open source work. >> >> And no, I am not a paid spokesperson for IJ! >> >> -Grant >> >> On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:59 AM, Dmitriy Lyubimov wrote: >> >>> M2e plugin never worked fir me. Instead, i just use eclipse maven plugin to >>> genrate eclipse projects and paths. >>> >>> Of course full fledged compilation is always maven native. But eclipse >>> incremental compiler works too and it is fast. >>> >>> Never had any problems with the scheme. >>> On Dec 5, 2011 12:52 PM, "Ted Dunning" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Let me know how the IntelliJ generated eclipse files work for you. It >>>> would be humorous if IntelliJ gave us better eclipse support than eclipse. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jeff Eastman <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If a little tune-up of our Eclipse configs is in order I'd like to learn >>>>> more about them so I can dig into it. I have almost full time to work on >>>>> this right now. >>>>> >>>> >> >> -------------------------- Grant Ingersoll http://www.lucidimagination.com
