It may be a knowledge gap, but it seems to have been well filled by
accurate inference.

A'A is always semi-positive-definite.

And I think you are correct that only rank deficiency can cause y'y = 0


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote:

> I guess A'A is always semi-positive-definite since x'(A'A)x = (x'A')(Ax) =
> y'y >=0.
>
> I also intuitively think that y'y = 0 when x != 0 in this case if and only
> if A'A is rank-deficient, i.e. it is sufficient to test for rank deficiency
> of A'A product to figure if QR is going less non-zero column than one
> desires. (Yes i have a knowledge gap here :)
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Still though, it seems this code is too sensitive to the error margin.
> >
> > Even when i change the input so that the case is not degenerate, i still
> > get  second norm of difference on Q of ~1e-5 between Cholesky and QR even
> > on 3 x 4 input which is large-ish imo,
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> oh, ok. So input is indeed still deficient. ok .
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> well the positive definite test is failing starting with row 2.  I
> >>> stepped thru it. But i am at loss why.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Just noticed it looks like some kind of rounding error since rows "2"
> >>>> and
> >>>> "3" in rControl have very small values in their elements.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Hi,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am trying to put in Cholesky-based distributed thin QR and having
> >>>> > troubles again (even with in-core). What am i doing wrong? I am
> >>>> inclined to
> >>>> > think there's definitely a bug in our Cholesky implementation, at
> this
> >>>> > point.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Here is the test code -- obviously results are different via
> >>>> Householder QR
> >>>> > and via Cholesky. Note that two rows of L' (R) matrix match the
> result
> >>>> > exactly, and it looks like L is just loosing two of its columns
> >>>> somehow.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Could somebody perhaps review the CholeskyDecomposition in Mahout?
> >>>> Because
> >>>> > of this, tests in spark - QR and spark -SSVD are failing.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > here's the code for in-core only and output:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -----------------
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     val inCoreA = dense(
> >>>> >       (1, 2, 3, 40),
> >>>> >       (2, 3, 4, 50),
> >>>> >       (3, 4, 5, 60),
> >>>> >       (4, 5, 6, 70),
> >>>> >       (5, 6, 7, 80)
> >>>> >     )
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     val (qControl, rControl) = qr(inCoreA)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     printf("qControl=\n%s\n", qControl)
> >>>> >     printf("rControl=\n%s\n", rControl)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     // Validate with Cholesky
> >>>> >     val ch = chol(inCoreA.t %*% inCoreA)
> >>>> >     val rControl2 = (ch.getL cloned).t
> >>>> >     val qControl2 = ch.solveRight(inCoreA)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     printf("qControl2=\n%s\n", qControl2)
> >>>> >     printf("rControl2=\n%s\n", rControl2)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > qControl=
> >>>> > {
> >>>> >   0  =>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> {0:0.13483997249264842,1:0.7627700713964736,2:0.09950371902099892,3:-0.30053573339989126}
> >>>> >   1  =>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> {0:0.26967994498529685,1:0.4767312946227957,2:0.19900743804199783,3:0.34749444174362476}
> >>>> >   2  =>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> {0:0.40451991747794525,1:0.1906925178491178,2:0.39801487608399566,3:0.22070592921554588}
> >>>> >   3  =>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> {0:0.5393598899705937,1:-0.09534625892456007,2:0.39801487608399566,3:0.6949888834872495}
> >>>> >   4  =>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> {0:0.6741998624632421,1:-0.3813850356982384,2:0.7960297521679913,3:-0.5071540501123155}
> >>>> > }
> >>>> > rControl=
> >>>> > {
> >>>> >   0  =>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> {0:7.416198487095663,1:9.43879807448539,2:11.461397661875116,3:134.83997249264843}
> >>>> >   1  =>
> >>>> {1:0.9534625892455925,2:1.906925178491185,3:28.603877677367773}
> >>>> >   2  => {2:2.2315206618374916E-15,3:4.1360462167918654E-14}
> >>>> >   3  => {3:1.8726762404185252E-15}
> >>>> > }
> >>>> > L:
> >>>> > {
> >>>> >   0  => {0:7.416198487095663}
> >>>> >   1  => {0:9.43879807448539,1:0.953462589245576}
> >>>> >   2  => {0:11.461397661875116,1:1.9069251784911967}
> >>>> >   3  => {0:134.83997249264843,1:28.603877677367997}
> >>>> > }
> >>>> > qControl2=
> >>>> > {
> >>>> >   0  => {0:0.13483997249264842,1:0.7627700713964867}
> >>>> >   1  => {0:0.26967994498529685,1:0.4767312946228039}
> >>>> >   2  => {0:0.40451991747794525,1:0.19069251784912108}
> >>>> >   3  => {0:0.5393598899705937,1:-0.09534625892456171}
> >>>> >   4  => {0:0.674199862463242,1:-0.38138503569824406}
> >>>> > }
> >>>> > rControl2=
> >>>> > {
> >>>> >   0  =>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> {0:7.416198487095663,1:9.43879807448539,2:11.461397661875116,3:134.83997249264843}
> >>>> >   1  =>
> >>>> {1:0.953462589245576,2:1.9069251784911967,3:28.603877677367997}
> >>>> >   2  => {}
> >>>> >   3  => {}
> >>>> > }
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

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