i do not object to driver CLI to use that. I was only skeptical about shell
startup. And i also want these to be part of oficial Spark documented api.
(are these classes it?) If they are not a stable api, we'd have trouble
doing major dependency update. If we only depend on RDD api, the updates
are easier.

But... if anyone wants to engineer and verify a patch to use these to
launch mahout shell, and it works, I don't have really strong basis for
objection aside for api stability concern.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:

> yes, the drivers support executor memory directly too.
>
> What was the reason you didn’t want to use the Spark submit process for
> executing drivers? I understand we have to find our jars and setup kryo.
>
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> which is why i explicitly configure executor memory on the client. Although
> even that interpretation  depends on the resource manager A LOT it seems.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The submit code is the only place that documents which are needed by
> > clients AFAICT. It is pretty complicated and heavily laden with checks
> for
> > which cluster manager is being used. I’d feel a lot better if we were
> using
> > it. There is no way any of us are going to be able to test on all those
> > configurations.
> >
> > spark-env.sh is mostly for launching the cluster not the client but there
> > seem to be exceptions like executor memory.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > these files if i read it correctly are for spawning yet another process.
> i
> > don't see how it may work for the shell.
> >
> > I am also not convinced that spark-env is important for the client.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I was thinking -Dx=y too, seems like a good idea.
> >>
> >> But we should also support setting them the way Spark documents in
> >> spark-env.sh and the two links Andrew found may solve that in a
> >> maintainable way. Maybe we get the SparkConf from a new mahoutSparkConf
> >> function, which handles all env supplied setup. For the drivers it can
> be
> >> done in the base class allowing and CLI overrides later. Then the
> > SparkConf
> >> is finally passed in to mahoutSparkContext where as little as possible
> is
> >> changed in the conf.
> >>
> >> I’ll look at this for the drivers. Should be easy to add to the shell.
> >>
> >> On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> IMO you just need to modify `mahout spark-shell` to propagate -Dx=y
> >> parameters to the java startup call and all should be fine.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Andrew Palumbo <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've run into this problem starting $ mahout shell-script.  i.e.
> needing
> >>> to set the spark.kryoserializer.buffer.mb and  spark.akka.frameSize.
> >> I've
> >>> been temporarily hard coding them for now while developing.
> >>>
> >>> I'm just getting familiar with What you've done with the CLI drivers.
> >> For
> >>> #2 could we borrow option parsing code/methods from spark [1] [2] at
> > each
> >>> (spark) release and somehow add this to
> >>> MahoutOptionParser.parseSparkOptions?
> >>>
> >>> I'll hopefully be doing some CLI work soon and have a better
> >> understanding.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/core/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/deploy/SparkSubmitDriverBootstrapper.scala
> >>> [2]
> >>>
> >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/core/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/deploy/SparkSubmit.scala
> >>>
> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Spark options
> >>>> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:48:59 -0800
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>> Spark has a launch script as hadoop does. We use the Hadoop launcher
> >>> script but not the Spark one. When starting up your Spark cluster there
> >> is
> >>> a spark-env.sh script that can set a bunch of environment variables. In
> >> our
> >>> own mahoutSparkContext function, which takes the place of the Spark
> >> submit
> >>> script and launcher we don’t account for most of the environment
> >> variables.
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless I missed something this means most of the documented options
> > will
> >>> be ignored unless a user of Mahout parses and sets them in their own
> >>> SparkConf. The Mahout CLI drivers don’t do this for all possible
> > options,
> >>> only supporting a few like job name and spark.executor.memory.
> >>>>
> >>>> The question is how to best handle these Spark options. There seem to
> > be
> >>> two options:
> >>>> 1) use sparks launch mechanism for drivers but allow some to be
> >>> overridden in the CLI
> >>>> 2) add parsing the env for options and set up the SparkConf default in
> >>> mahoutSparkContext with those variables.
> >>>>
> >>>> The downside of #2 is that as variables change we’ll have to reflect
> >>> those in our code. I forget why #1 is not an option but Dmitriy has
> been
> >>> consistently against this—in any case it would mean a fair bit of
> >>> refactoring I believe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any opinions or corrections?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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