Andrew, when you get to creating a driver maybe we should take another look at 
how to launch them. I’ll add the -Dxxx=yyy option for now.

 
On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote:

i do not object to driver CLI to use that. I was only skeptical about shell
startup. And i also want these to be part of oficial Spark documented api.
(are these classes it?) If they are not a stable api, we'd have trouble
doing major dependency update. If we only depend on RDD api, the updates
are easier.

But... if anyone wants to engineer and verify a patch to use these to
launch mahout shell, and it works, I don't have really strong basis for
objection aside for api stability concern.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:

> yes, the drivers support executor memory directly too.
> 
> What was the reason you didn’t want to use the Spark submit process for
> executing drivers? I understand we have to find our jars and setup kryo.
> 
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> which is why i explicitly configure executor memory on the client. Although
> even that interpretation  depends on the resource manager A LOT it seems.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> The submit code is the only place that documents which are needed by
>> clients AFAICT. It is pretty complicated and heavily laden with checks
> for
>> which cluster manager is being used. I’d feel a lot better if we were
> using
>> it. There is no way any of us are going to be able to test on all those
>> configurations.
>> 
>> spark-env.sh is mostly for launching the cluster not the client but there
>> seem to be exceptions like executor memory.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> these files if i read it correctly are for spawning yet another process.
> i
>> don't see how it may work for the shell.
>> 
>> I am also not convinced that spark-env is important for the client.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was thinking -Dx=y too, seems like a good idea.
>>> 
>>> But we should also support setting them the way Spark documents in
>>> spark-env.sh and the two links Andrew found may solve that in a
>>> maintainable way. Maybe we get the SparkConf from a new mahoutSparkConf
>>> function, which handles all env supplied setup. For the drivers it can
> be
>>> done in the base class allowing and CLI overrides later. Then the
>> SparkConf
>>> is finally passed in to mahoutSparkContext where as little as possible
> is
>>> changed in the conf.
>>> 
>>> I’ll look at this for the drivers. Should be easy to add to the shell.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> IMO you just need to modify `mahout spark-shell` to propagate -Dx=y
>>> parameters to the java startup call and all should be fine.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Andrew Palumbo <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've run into this problem starting $ mahout shell-script.  i.e.
> needing
>>>> to set the spark.kryoserializer.buffer.mb and  spark.akka.frameSize.
>>> I've
>>>> been temporarily hard coding them for now while developing.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm just getting familiar with What you've done with the CLI drivers.
>>> For
>>>> #2 could we borrow option parsing code/methods from spark [1] [2] at
>> each
>>>> (spark) release and somehow add this to
>>>> MahoutOptionParser.parseSparkOptions?
>>>> 
>>>> I'll hopefully be doing some CLI work soon and have a better
>>> understanding.
>>>> 
>>>> [1]
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/core/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/deploy/SparkSubmitDriverBootstrapper.scala
>>>> [2]
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/core/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/deploy/SparkSubmit.scala
>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Spark options
>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:48:59 -0800
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Spark has a launch script as hadoop does. We use the Hadoop launcher
>>>> script but not the Spark one. When starting up your Spark cluster there
>>> is
>>>> a spark-env.sh script that can set a bunch of environment variables. In
>>> our
>>>> own mahoutSparkContext function, which takes the place of the Spark
>>> submit
>>>> script and launcher we don’t account for most of the environment
>>> variables.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unless I missed something this means most of the documented options
>> will
>>>> be ignored unless a user of Mahout parses and sets them in their own
>>>> SparkConf. The Mahout CLI drivers don’t do this for all possible
>> options,
>>>> only supporting a few like job name and spark.executor.memory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The question is how to best handle these Spark options. There seem to
>> be
>>>> two options:
>>>>> 1) use sparks launch mechanism for drivers but allow some to be
>>>> overridden in the CLI
>>>>> 2) add parsing the env for options and set up the SparkConf default in
>>>> mahoutSparkContext with those variables.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The downside of #2 is that as variables change we’ll have to reflect
>>>> those in our code. I forget why #1 is not an option but Dmitriy has
> been
>>>> consistently against this—in any case it would mean a fair bit of
>>>> refactoring I believe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any opinions or corrections?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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