On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <dlie...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
>
> > The multiple backend support is such a waste of time IMO. The DSL and GPU
> > support is super important and should be made even more distributed. The
> > current (as I understand it) single threaded GPU per VM is only the first
> > step in what will make Mahout important for a long time to come.
> >
>
> This seems self contradicting a bit. Multiple backends is the only thing
> that remedies it for me. By that i mean both distributed (i/o) backends and
> the in-memory.
>
> Good CPU and GPU plugins will be important, as well as communication layer
> alternatives to spark. Spark is not working out well for interconnected
> problems, and H20 and Flink, well, I'd just forget about them. I'd
> certainly drop H20 for now.


FWIW, the H2O backend is more stable than the F%*&k backend, best to drop
both.



> But ability to plug in new communication
> backend primitives seems to be critical in my experience, as well as
> variety of cpu/gpu chipset support. (I do use both in-memory and i/o custom
> backends that IMO are a must).
>
> In that sense, it is super-important that custom backends are easy to plug
> (even if you are absolutely legitimately dissatisfied with the existing
> ones).
>
>
> > Think of Mahout in 5 years what will be important? H2O? Hadoop Mapreduce?
> > Flink? I’ll stake my dollar on no. GPUs yes and up the stakes. Streaming
> > online learning (kappa style) yes but not sure Mahout is made for this
> > right now.
> >
> > Or if we are talking about web site revamp +1, I’d be happy to upgrade my
> > section and have only held off waiting to see a redesign or moving to
> > Jekyll.
> >
> > As to a new mascot, ok, but the old one fits the name. We tried
> sub-naming
> > Mahout-Samsara to symbolize the changing nature and rebirth of the
> project,
> > maybe we should drop the name Mahout altogether. the name Mahout, like
> the
> > blue man, is not relevant to the project anymore and maybe renaming, is
> > good for marketing.
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Nikolai Sakharnykh <nsakharn...@nvidia.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Agree that the website feels outdated. I would add Samsara code example
> on
> > the front page, list of key algorithms implemented, supported backends,
> > github & download links, and cut down the news part especially towards
> the
> > end with flat release numbers and dates. Also probably reorganize the
> tabs.
> >
> > If we go with honey badger as a mascot do we have any ideas on the logo
> > itself? Honey badger biting/eating a snake?)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trevor Grant [mailto:trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:53 PM
> > To: dev@mahout.apache.org
> > Cc: u...@mahout.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Marketing
> >
> > A student once asked his teacher, "Master, what is enlightenment?"
> >
> > The master replied, "When hungry, eat. When tired, sleep."
> >
> > Sounds like the honey badger to me...
> >
> > Trevor Grant
> > Data Scientist
> > https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> > http://trevorgrant.org
> >
> > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The little blue man (the mahout) was reborn (samsara) as a
> honey-badger?
> > > He must be close indeed to reaching true enlightenment, or is that
> > Buddhism?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Palumbo <ap....@outlook.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 on revamp.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original message --------
> > > From: Trevor Grant <trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>
> > > Date: 03/23/2017 12:36 PM (GMT-08:00)
> > > To: u...@mahout.apache.org, dev@mahout.apache.org
> > > Subject: Marketing
> > >
> > > Hey user and dev,
> > >
> > > With 0.13.0 the Apache Mahout project has added some significant
> updates.
> > >
> > > The website is starting to feel 'dated' I think it could use a reboot.
> > >
> > > The blue person riding the elephant has less signifigance in
> > > Mahout-Samsara's modular backends.
> > >
> > > Would like to open the floor to discussion on website reboot (and who
> > > might be willing to take on such a project), as well as new mascot.
> > >
> > > To kick off- in an offline talk there was the idea of A honey badger
> > > (bc honey-badger don't care, just like mahout don't care what back end
> > > or native solvers you are using, and also bc a cobra bites a honey
> > > badger and he takes a little nap then wakes up and finishes eating the
> > > cobra. honey badger eats snakes, and does all the work while the other
> > > animals pick up the scraps.
> > > see this short documentary on the honey badger:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg ) ^^audio not safe for
> > > work
> > >
> > > Con: its almost tooo jokey.
> > >
> > > Other idea: are coy-wolfs.
> > >
> > > Trevor Grant
> > > Data Scientist
> > > https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> > > http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> > > http://trevorgrant.org
> > >
> > > *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."
> > > -Virgil*
> > >
> > >
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