Mensaje citado por Jacqueline McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> > Which just because some people think that, that make it true. At the end of
> the
> > day is just opinions and doesn't representa a reality or guarantee that it
> will
> > happen.
>
> My opinion is based on the fact that a similar campaign to that of
> spreadfirefox does not address current issues that we have in promoting OOo.
>
> For example, the most common pleas for help to webmasters include people
> that:
>
> - Cannot download successfully because it has stopped part way through.
> - Not downloaded properly (and many don't know this until they attempt
> to install as they don't check the integrity of the file before they
> start to install).
> - Have downloaded the file and then don't know what to do (often don't
> know where it is on their computer).
> - Don't know how to initiate the installation as they think downloading
> does this.
> - File association is a big issue. You can visit any website with any
> browser, but you cannot simply click on your document file to open in
> the application you wish unless you know about mime types or file
> associations.
> - Colleagues and friends cannot open and view the file they have sent them.
> - etc.

What does that makes OOo different? OOo instlation is not 'standard' is a zip
file and installation is very different. Even OOo 2.0 is very awkward to
install on a debian machine enabling java from the instalation stage and also
looking for isntalation packaging 'zip, 7-zip, rpm, deb, msi'.

The issue that it needs to have java to have a proper instlation makes it more
complex so we most definetly found this questions popup on a similar
instalation.

SpreadOOo doesn't have to have the same target thought, is just a URL. We can
approach it differently. There is definetly a demand for Templates, Styles,
many people don't know about the add-in on productivity when you exchange
palettes, cfg files, styles, etc.

Building awereness of cool formulas on OOoCalc, ClipArts, Implementation with
datasources and of course OOo Basic.

--
Alexandro Colorado
Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish
http://es.openoffice.org/


> The expectation that a copycat of the Firefox campaign is that new users
> (new to OOo) will be able to download, install and use OOo as easily as
> Firefox. If you are new to this download/install/run stuff and you have
> problems, getting a quick response from a helpful and friendly volunteer
> makes all the difference. How do you envisage being able to respond to
> being inundated with new users with expectations similar to the
> experience they have had with Firefox?
>
> Added to that, a new issue for promoting 2.0 is that our existing user
> base will almost become new users again because of the change in file
> formats.
>
> By all means discuss special or ongoing promotional activities, but I
> hesitate to call them something similar to another campaign when the
> issues that we need to overcome are quite different.
>
> Where a get/spreadopenoffice.org campaign will succeed will be with
> existing OOo fans that consider the spreadfirefox to be a great
> initiative. It is/was, but it is not the existing OOo fans that we need
> to reach (apart from awareness of OpenDocument).
>
> > Examples can be seen on kde-look.org and gnome-look.org which both project
> has
> > been succesful. Kde was first and after a server failed of art.gnome.org,
> > gnome-look.org was born and has succesfully added new art material for the
> > foot.
>
> The difference between these sites that sprung up and the Firefox
> campaign, is that the Mozilla Foundation planned the campaign and any
> similar domains redirect to mozilla.org.
>
> > If you feel like it, go for it. I dont think is detrimental by any mean.
>
> Detrimental is the wrong word, certainly I did not mean harmful.
>
> I guess I'm thinking that our most valuable resource is our volunteers,
> and if they are already OOo advocates we don't need to convince
> me/us/them. I'm thinking of reaching those that have not obtained OOo to
> use yet - and the issues of large download, commitment to change etc are
> real.
>
> Regards
> Jacqueline
>
> My opinions are my own, only.
>
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