Sophie Gautier wrote:

> I'm jumping here in the discussion for something that is really 
> important for me.

Hi Sophie, good to see you here.

> Ok, we (NLC), for several of us, have association/foundation that allow 
> us to have our own business cards, banners, T-shirts, cds... and didn't 
> ask or wait any permission from the OOo project.

I like that.


> Here, the art project is the one we (all the projects) can refer to have 
> the basic design line we need for marketing. Imho, this is why this 
> project have to be concerned by all the graphic marketing line created 
> throughout the project. I agree with you Daniel, that business cards 
> don't need contest, but if I want a new design for our next business 
> cards production, this is on this project that I will look for them.

I think we can agree. You see, I don't mean to say that the art project 
is not useful. Or any other project. What I object to is holding everthing 
back to get approval. If the art project wants to do a design for business 
cards, I think that's fantastic. But I don't think we should need to wait 
for their approval to do business cards now.

> >One of the biggest problems with this project is this insane need to try 
> >to make one design that fits all purposes and is approved by everyone. 
> 
> No, don't see it like this, see it as a reference marketingbase where 
> every project can *confidently* pick what he needs, knowing that it has 
> been 'approved' by the MP.

That's something I can agree with. Having designs and logos from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is good. But in their absence, we shouldn't paralize a 
project. I also understand your point about having one voice. I guess what 
I want is for it to not be over-done. It's a matter of degree. Something 
like a splash screen, which is "set" for all OOo and can't be changed 
easily, should go through [EMAIL PROTECTED] But something as tiny as business 
cards should have more freedom and flexibility.

> I agree with you about that should not slow the process. Francophone 
> project have CDs, posters, flyers, banner, plush toys, and special 
> design that any body can use. We have settled an association especially 
> to found our marketing needs.

/daniel waves his "Francophone rulez flag" :-)


> But every time, we are following what the MP is approving because I feel 
> that however the country or the language you speak, OOo is the same 
> community and the same product.

Ok. Point taken.

Cheers,
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