Who are you? Where do you come from?
What right do you have to call for a vote of confidence in anything? You've been on the lists, what, a month? Show me one line of code you've contributed. Show me one convert you've switched to OpenOffice.org. Show me one website you've gotten to add a "Download OpenOffice.org" button. Who are you? You don't just barge into a project and start demanding changes. If you don't like the way things are done, fine, but for a "marketing expert" you sure don't seem to know the first thing about working with people. In the past month since you've been here, I've seen more infighting among the marketing volunteers than the entire 2 years I've been on it. Do you think that is a coincidence? You have no title, no rank, and as far as I'm concerned no earned merit in the OpenOffice.org community to start a no confidence vote on anybody or anything. You are right, this is an open source project, so anyone can volunteer - but it's a meritocrity - a "doocrity" - and all I've ever seen you do is bitch about the way things are done. I tell you what, Mr. Marketing Degree, you start advertising OOo, and when we see our downloads jump up - then you'll have some clout. A true "marketing expert" who is going to start a no confidence vote would maybe write a sentence or two explaining why such a vote is called for. You didn't do that, did ya Steve? If this is about John saying we should offer more than one button - it's based on a little something you seem to have none of - and that's experience working with an open source project. In the world of open source you *can't* control your image the way you can in a propriatary world. If someone wants to fire-up MS Paint and free-hand draw an OOo logo (using their mouse) and put that as the splash screen - they can. They want to hand out copies of OOo (with butcher splash screen) on a CD that's not labeled - they can. They want to hand write with a Sharpie the words "Open Office" on the CD, they can. In fact, they do. And you know what? That's okay - because they are still handing out copies of OpenOffice.org. What John was saying was "if they don't like our official logo - they are not going to use it. It would be better if we gave them some options that we like rather than to leave them to come up with something on their own." That is smart. That inspires confidence in me. I trust's John's capability to understand open source culture and make an informed suggestion, (which he did, of course, leave open as a suggestion to the community - not some sort of order). -1 confidence in Steven Pauwels -1 for Steven Pauwels capability +1 for confidence in the Project Lead of Marketing - Jacqueline McNally +1 for confidence in the Project Lead of Marketing - John McCreesh +1 for Project Lead of Marketing - Jacqueline McNally's capabilities +1 for Project Lead of Marketing - John McCreesh's capabilities You know what I think, Stevo - I think you want to lead OOo Marketing, and I think you want to do it so you can put it on your resume - not so you can help the OpenOffice.org project. You probably think it would easier to take over some volunteer project than get a real advertising job. I think if you somehow *did* become Marketing Lead, you'd disappear in a heartbeat if someone offered you a "real job" that was "more important". You probably wouldn't even bother to tell us you were leaving - just stop interacting with the project. This is bullcrap, and you need to stop. On 2/21/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > -1 for confidence in Marketing PL. > -1 for Marketing PL capability. -- - Chad Smith http://www.gimpshop.net/ Because everyone loves free software!
