If I'm not mistaken, I think part of the problem was not so much that the 
mailing list discussions were or were not publicly viewable.  My 
understanding is that a web page had been created with a "live" url that LWN 
was able to point to even though it was not "finished".  

IIRC, part of the problem was that even though "rough draft" pages could be 
created, the peculiarities of the Collabnet platform forced the creation of a 
"live" page so things like look/feel (formatting) could be worked on.

I guess the question is whether a sandbox can be created so the Collabnet 
pages can be created and reviewed before they are actually published.

Jeff Causey


On Friday May 12 2006 10:55, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2006-05-12, at 10:38 , John McCreesh wrote:
> > Now that the LWN article has moved from being 'subscriber only' to
> > 'general release', I've re-read all the comments:
> > http://lwn.net/Articles/182092/#Comments
> >
> > The balance of opinion seems to be:
> >
> > "Seriously, breaking news of a PR campaign *can* derail it ... That
> > said, the OOo marketing people who made it Google-visible before it
> > was
> > supposed to go public are the real idiots here!"
> >
> > I'm not sure that our mailing lists *are* Google-visible,
>
> Depends on the list. "Private" lists requiring someone to be logged
> in to view the archives are not.
>
> > but the point
> > is still valid. They are public, and anyone can join and listen in.
> > "Get
> > Legal" is the first in a series of attention-grabbing campaigns as we
> > develop the proposition "Why OpenOffice.org". I believe we will get
> > most
> > impact if we can maintain an element of surprise.
> >
> > Comments?
>
> Conduct PR discussions on [EMAIL PROTECTED], which requires one to login
> to view the archives.
>
> We have of course had this discussion before, and the alternative
> then--offlist discussions or using really private lists--is
> problematical, both because it can be a pain to track and because it
> defies the principles of openness.
>
> Hence, let's use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for discussions like this and accept
> that it is not perfect (spies) but is good enough.
>
> BTW, I hardly think the Get Legal campaign was derailed b/c it was
> made public before it was officially made public :-)
>
> Ciao
> Louis
>
> > John
> >
> >
> >
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