On Friday May 12 2006 11:40, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > Hi, Jeff > Not sure I've "met" you before, so welcome... > > On 2006-05-12, at 11:23 , Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken, I think part of the problem was not so much > > that the > > mailing list discussions were or were not publicly viewable. My > > understanding is that a web page had been created with a "live" url > > that LWN > > was able to point to even though it was not "finished". > > > > IIRC, part of the problem was that even though "rough draft" pages > > could be > > created, the peculiarities of the Collabnet platform forced the > > creation of a > > "live" page so things like look/feel (formatting) could be worked on. > > > > I guess the question is whether a sandbox can be created so the > > Collabnet > > pages can be created and reviewed before they are actually published. > > Hm; thanks for the clarification. We can't easily have a sandbox as > you suggest, but there are ways around the problem of live > urls....Here is what I do all the time for the homepage: I just name > it obscurely and ask for people to review the obscure page. We can > also use obscure URLs on Marketing, and in fact, this was done with > the Why pages, when Cristian and John worked on preliminary versions > on Website project, which is designed for this sort of thing. > > Best, > > Louis > > PS Jeff, can you bottom post? it's easier on others, as that way we > can pretend to have a conversation. Also, keep in mind that this list > is decidedly public, and you should be careful about what you want > made public, like your phone number. :-)
Louis, wrt the Collabnet platform, that was my understanding. I know with most of the platforms I work with, they have options to mark something as draft or set a "publication" date in the future. Kind of odd Collabnet does not have that, but I'm guessing it goes back to its roots. Anyway, I suppose the "obscurity" solution will have to do. However, I believe as this episode has shown, it can create problems if there is a "leak". Jeff P.S. - I will try to humor you with bottom-posting. Alas, this may be it as I have been a "top-poster" since the dawn of time. Trying to change for this list will be like trying to remember to cross my arms left-over-right instead of right-over-left - not only does it not feel right, it is not something I really think about when I do it. :-) > > > Jeff Causey > > > > On Friday May 12 2006 10:55, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 2006-05-12, at 10:38 , John McCreesh wrote: > >>> Now that the LWN article has moved from being 'subscriber only' to > >>> 'general release', I've re-read all the comments: > >>> http://lwn.net/Articles/182092/#Comments > >>> > >>> The balance of opinion seems to be: > >>> > >>> "Seriously, breaking news of a PR campaign *can* derail it ... That > >>> said, the OOo marketing people who made it Google-visible before it > >>> was > >>> supposed to go public are the real idiots here!" > >>> > >>> I'm not sure that our mailing lists *are* Google-visible, > >> > >> Depends on the list. "Private" lists requiring someone to be logged > >> in to view the archives are not. > >> > >>> but the point > >>> is still valid. They are public, and anyone can join and listen in. > >>> "Get > >>> Legal" is the first in a series of attention-grabbing campaigns > >>> as we > >>> develop the proposition "Why OpenOffice.org". I believe we will get > >>> most > >>> impact if we can maintain an element of surprise. > >>> > >>> Comments? > >> > >> Conduct PR discussions on [EMAIL PROTECTED], which requires one to login > >> to view the archives. > >> > >> We have of course had this discussion before, and the alternative > >> then--offlist discussions or using really private lists--is > >> problematical, both because it can be a pain to track and because it > >> defies the principles of openness. > >> > >> Hence, let's use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for discussions like this and accept > >> that it is not perfect (spies) but is good enough. > >> > >> BTW, I hardly think the Get Legal campaign was derailed b/c it was > >> made public before it was officially made public :-) > >> > >> Ciao > >> Louis > >> > >>> John > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA, CAPM President Strategic Innovations, Inc. 336-675-1652 www.strategic-innovations-inc.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
