I never said anyone here was stupid and I never called anyone names. Is said the .org extension was stupid and it is. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass about it because I really do think that there is an attitude here that I am not as smart as your marketing team and that offends me. So you didn't have to be a smart ass with the line " Cool Idea! I take it you will deal with the resulting copyright infringement charges? Thanks!"
I thought this organization welcomed volunteers and contributions to the cause. But when I did try to contribute ideas I was met with condescending responses, cold shoulders and when I tried to join the lead sends me an E-mail telling me my request tp join the Marketing Project is denied for "lack of response" to a welcome E-mail I never received. What was that all about? If she wants to turn me down just say so, don't play games with me. I have been on this list for awhile and watched a few other people get talked down to, chewed out and even one guy booted off and from where I sit he was just trying to contribute. I'm sorry I even spoke up. I am sure I am setting myself up to be flamed. And this is supposed to be professional. I like OpenOffice.org and I recommend it to all my clients but, sheesh, the condescending and elitist attitudes here by the very people who "welcome contributions and participation" from volunteers (that is how you guys treat volunteers? I am glad they were not employees) is just a little too much for me. Keep your .org. I don't need it. -----Original Message----- From: André Wyrwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Marketing] The missing ".org" again Support wrote: > When Lindows went up against Microsoft they didn't change it to > Lindows.org. They changed it to Linspire. It wasn't their first choice but > it is still a marketable name and they re-established it quickly. It turned > out to be a better way. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made and often they > are for the better. > > I'm sorry if I offend anyone but to be honest, from the outside looking in > the .org is not pretty to look at. Instead of looking for a better way, > Obviously the attitude here is to shoot down any suggestions for improvement > and go with the status quo. Can't anyone think outside the box anymore? Sure, "OpenOffice.org" is not as nice as "OpenOffer", but hey, someone made that decision, already. And i guess it wasn't just one person alone, turning around in sleep, dreaming "hey, let's just call it OpenOffice.org then". Yes, people are used to dropping addendums like that. In fact, I think dropping the addendum in everyday verbal use is quite ok, but I don't find it asked to much for the press to use the correct term in written publications. You are not offending anyone by stating that you find the ".org" ugly, too much, an obstacle or whatever. In fact I find it an obstacle myself. But you surely offend someone by finding it a reason to call them not able to "think out of the box" (who defines the box here, if not you?), "not looking a better way" (do you have one? I'm sure there were people who thought quite a bit on what to do back then), having an attitude "to shoot down any suggestions for improvement" (do you have one?), in need to "wise up". Instead of banging your head against the wall, you could use it to come up with a better name suggestion and a strategic and convincing plan how to convince the public and press that got used to the OpenOffice.org brand to change to a new one (keep in mind that neither "Lindows" nor "Linspire" was at any stage as much in the mouth of people as "OpenOffice.org" is, though). I'm sure that would be something that would turn even us numbsculls and dickheads around and open us up to make the change. Because you must know that we are just too stupid and stubborn and arrogant to come up with such a smart solution to that problem ourselves. BTW: I don't quite get how the question of a client why it is called OpenOffice.org rather than just OpenOffice is a reason to stop calling it OpenOffice.org.?. (Except if possibly you didn't know yourself, that is.) André. > -----Original Message----- > From: André Wyrwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Marketing] The missing ".org" again > > Support wrote: >> Personally I think the .org is stupid and is poor marketing and I > suggested >> they drop it a long time ago but until someone in charge wises up and >> realizes that it doesn't help the cause I am just banging my head against >> the wall. I used to say OpenOffice.org when pitching it to all my clients >> but I stopped when people started asking me why it is called .org. >> Apparently, at least in my area, .org sounds silly and amateurish to > others >> as well. But then, what do I know. I am not as smart as your marketing > team >> or I would be on it. > > Cool Idea! I take it you will deal with the resulting copyright > infringement charges? 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