On Wednesday 03 October 2007 05:13, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi Graham,
>
> > Ok so now we're being told where and how as well as what and
> > how much??  Seems like all decisions are being made by the
> > corporate partner and any discussion here was superfluous or am
> > I still confused.
>
> it turned out to be harder than we thought, and the Sun PR agency
> offered to bundle a package of advertising. I just don't have any
> details yet. :-)

Ok now this is a significant piece of information which wasn't 
passed on or if it was, I must have missed it.  I certainly haven't 
seen SUN PR posting on the list and the question certainly didn't 
get put to  the .community

It is not harder than we thought at all.  We were given a 
ridiculously short time span to do the job.  Although given the 
amount of time the toing and froing of USB drives will take, maybe 
we would have been faster.  

We had a number of questions to answer and a number of tasks that 
needed to be performed that could have been assigned to individuals 
or teams to report back to the project.  We were never given that 
chance!


>
> > :-) Heh sack your supplier I had a quote and sample in two days
> >
> > (Item that is, not art as we haven't made that call yet) and I
> > was not pleased it took them that long..... Unless of course
> > the supplier is obscenely cheap.
>
> The problem is, that the Sun US supplier will send me a sample to
> Germany to test for speed and reliability of the USB drive - and
> that can take a while, due to shipping and customs... :-(

If you'll forgive me, that is nuts.  When did this decision get 
made?  Did I completely waste a substantial number of hours of my 
time contributing to this discussion, getting quotes etc.  If 
someone had said "We HAVE to use Suns supplier"  I wouldn't have 
bothered.

If there was a need to use Sun's US supplier then why couldn't the 
testing be done by one of the Marketing team in the US... Benjamin 
Horst for instance.  I would trust Ben to make the call on 
something as simple as that.  He's a member of the community of 
long and good standing.  We are a team, we need to start acting 
like one. 

I have to admit to being somewhat peeved right now.  This was a 
chance for the Marketing project to actually do something real and 
concrete with something resembling a budget and we've been setup to 
fail.

The question is:  Is Sun's PR Agency going to do this for free?  I 
think not.   In fact they probably see this volunteer project as a 
threat to their income.  I wouldn't like to say that they were 
lobbying against us in the  backrooms at Sun but one has suspicions

I would like to know what the deliverables are that are required of 
the Agency.  We don't even know what their campaign looks like, 
what it's aimed at and how we're going to assess the success or 
otherwise of it.   

>
> Florian
>

Cheers
GL

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