On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Juergen Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
On 1/11/10 1:34 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Florian Effenberger <[email protected]> wrote:Hello Alexandro,This event is one where developers will be all over the place and would be great oportunity to recruit and have a display. Unfortunately this trip won't allow me to cover the expense of a boot. But I will be able to bring some brochures and CDs. But also walk around to other boots and recruit on the spot. Unfortunately I wont give a talk since the CFP was over on the 24th of last month but I will still be able to participate on the un-conference and drive a BOF on ODF/OOo and other of the projects I am involved like Education, BizDev and Certification.I'm not hesitant (as some are) because of the amount of money or the long trip from Mexico, but because I need some more information what you plan to do at the event. Normally, we only fund event attendance if we either have a booth/demo point, or a talk. Is it correct that at the moment you can only say that you will be there and try to do some "networking"? Are there any chances of getting a talk/BoF/lightning talk or get some demo point to exhibit at? That surely would help the funding request...Perhaps you missed that part of the original email: "Unfortunately I wont give a talk since the CFP was over on the 24th of last month but I will still be able to participate on the un-conference and drive a BOF on ODF/OOo and other of the projects I am involved like Education, BizDev and Certification.""... will still be able to ..." Alexandro the point is probably more that people want a clear and detailed request. I will talk about X at event Y where we will also have booth with N people and we would like to request XY dollars funding to sponsor travel expenses and ...
Like I said Call for paper in SCALE is over, so nothing much that can be done there, I am not a scheduled speaker. Again SCALE is like the most developer-friendly event in the US next to OSCON. Failing to attend there would be a big missed chance for OOo as a whole. Being relatively close to the event allow me to go down there but not without needing around 1,000 dls.
I don't have problems with such requests but we should provide the minimum requirements. Requirements that we should probably discuss and write down in detail for the future.
I agree with these requirements (although we still need to establish them). For me the most explicit requirements are the ones for Marcons explained on the marketing plan as to give a detailed report after the event. Which could be interpret as doing research and generating relationships with OpenOffice.org. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Strategic_Marketing_Plan#Marketing_Project
Otherwise it sounds more like i would like to go to the Scale conference to
do some networking ("private"?) and of course yes i would be able to talk
If the networking was private I wouldn't be talking about it here. Everything I plan to achieve here is for the OOo projects, but to be more specifically I would want to recruit developers that might be interested into contributing with the OOo project.
about OOo topics if applicable but no concrete plans and nothing confirmed yet. In the economical situation of today probably no company would accept such a request.
Yes most of the first time events when I have no contact with the organizers and don't have a big participation tend me to set the goals within the project quite low. However is my experience that most of the benefits of attending these conferences is not on the official participation but on the overall participation in general and be able to talk to people and let people approach you to ask you questions about the project and propose participations.
A great example could be the KDE Release Party event about 2 years ago where I also wasn't scheduled to give a talk. I eventually gave a join talk with Inge Wallin about ODF and also generate enough interested and launched the template project many months OOo launched it's own template project. http://opentemplate.org/Again this wasn't planned, and I was able to connect people that wanted to give back to the project and create a resource for OOo as a whole.
In general i would say yes it is important to be present on such events and ideally staffed with local community members. Juergen
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