Hi Sophie, Sophie wrote on 2010-01-11 14.17:
Sorry for jumping late, I've health problems and I'm not really available. But this is important.
I hope you get well soon! Take care!
From what I see, most of the active community members have no lead role in the project. Most of the people doing l10n, QA or documentation have no other title than community contributor but each of them is as important as any other.
Sorry if you got the wrong impression by my sentence. I did not mean that their work is not so important as the work of people with "titles". What I meant is that it might be no coincidence that always the same people, and also lots of people with roles/"titles" amongst them, request money. It might give the impression that only a few people get funded, but basically, it's often a only a handful of people doing trips or other things that require funding. That's what I wanted to express -- that we don't give more money to people with roles than to others. ;-)
The issue I get with those face2face meetings organized in Hamburg is that they are often organized off list. Rosana came last week with the request of funding a team, great and nothing to say about it, but what if some of us would have been willing to participate, even on our own budget ?
I agree that this time the planning and the communication was not good -- but no one is to blame here. This time it was necessary. Please wait for our summary so you see why.
Again, I agree that it was basically not the right way and it should not be "normal" -- but when you see our summary, you know why. In the meantime, please trust me. :-)
For me, it's very difficult to feel that I belong to a community process when I'm not able to take part at the heart of it. How do you feel involved in that case ? It's not only a marketing issue here, but branding is not only marketing also, it concerns the art project, the NLC, UX also. This is something frustrating for those who are willing to invest time and/or resources/money in a project or a decision process and they are not invited nor informed to participate to an important part of it.
I absolutely agree that we need to take care not to form "inner circles" excluding others, and that we need to take care of using the lists as often as possible. This is one of my personal goals I set myself, and I hope we can work on it and improve it throughout the project.
Virtual conferencing system should be evaluated also as a tool for the OOo project and not only on a marketing point of view. It should be evaluated at a infrastructure level to enhance the community participation and reinforcement. So the budget should be supported as a community wide one and not only on the marketing one. The marketing action here is marketing the community ;)
I think the marketing can be a good start, but for sure, the goal would be to have this infrastructure for all the community. As you can see, I'm currently playing with some tools to see where we can get. :-)
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