On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Chaosun <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Naming issue again. It makes no sense arguing somehow. Name is a name > >> anyway. People actually don't care about the names, if it changed, may > cause > >> confusing or unconfortable. Let's please focus on the office suit itself > > >instead of those ichiness. > >> > > >Wow people don't care about the name... seems you never study branding in > >marketing. Most of the time the brand "Google" can make an office suite > >matter more than when it was called writley. > > Well, I never study, but how much end users do? You can teach me the > branding > thing in marketing. However, people may have the conversation like this > "........OpenOffice ........" "NO, OpenOffice.org" "What???" "I mean > OpenOffice.org" > "What ever....." > IMHO, no offence. > Well I have been involved with OpenOffice.org in 10 years and people want to pronounced it correctly. If they listen to it like that, the problem is that most people don't write it with the .org and by that I mean Magazines, Distros, etc. Most of the OOo site is written as OpenOffice.org same as books and such. Many people say Microsoft Office completely as opposed to "Office", except on casual ocassions. So branding is really important. > > Chao > > > > > >On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Ben Pracht <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I still say it'd be better to use something other than .org, even if it > > > meant a name change to something close but not trademarked. I don't > > think > > > names are a light issue either, especially since really, that's the > first > > > exposure someone's going to have to the product. > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Christoph Noack < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Ben, > > > > > > > > I know that this sometimes is a bit ... strange. Especially since > > nobody > > > > really cares about the proper naming (e.g. in the press). However, > here > > > > is the reason: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-other.html#4 > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Christoph > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 18.05.2010, 15:59 -0500 schrieb Ben Pracht: > > > > > There's something that's bothered me since I started using > OpenOffice > > > > which > > > > > I wish also got changed, which was the use of OOo or appending .org > > at > > > > the > > > > > end of it. The first one reminds me of the acronym for Out of > > Office, > > > or > > > > > some sort of impolite personal accident. Appending .org seems > > > > superfluous. > > > > > It's also easier to roll off your tongue if you can just say > > OpenOffice > > > > or > > > > > something like that. I'd suggest the next time branding issues > come > > up > > > > in a > > > > > somewhat major way to take up investigating this. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Christoph Noack < > > > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sophie, hi Miroslav! > > > > > > > > > > > > Miroslav, you asked for the colors in the ODF icons. As I > > understood > > > > > > Sophie, there might be a chance to improve the usability and > > branding > > > > of > > > > > > the currently ODF-only icons. Personally, I don't know ... there > > have > > > > > > been many questions, but no real comment by one of the team > > members. > > > So > > > > > > if this is important to you (as it is to me), please follow > > Sophie's > > > > > > hint to join the branding effort and help us to drive that topic. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, there has been a request by Bernhard to the > > > Community > > > > > > Council. He asks why there hasn't been any community involvement > > with > > > > > > regard to the ODF icons ... currently there are (slow) > discussions > > > > going > > > > > > on. [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Christoph > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Agenda > > > > > > (2010-04-29#2< > > > > > > > > > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Agenda%0A%282010-04-29#2 > > > >Missing > > > > OOo desktop presence) > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 18.05.2010, 20:23 +0200 schrieb Sophie: > > > > > > > Hi Miroslav, > > > > > > > Miroslav Mazel wrote: > > > > > > > > We've been discussing the omission of color pretty thoroughly > > > since > > > > > > > the OOo > > > > > > > > branding was changed, but it seems that it lead to... > nothing. > > Is > > > > > > > the lack > > > > > > > > of color in application icons and file icons final? Could we > > have > > > > an > > > > > > > > official vote on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not final and if you want to follow/help on this, the > > > > > > > discussions happen on the branding list > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alexandro Colorado > > OpenOffice.org Español > > http://es.openoffice.org > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > OpenOffice.org Español > http://es.openoffice.org > -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org
