Hi Florian > I'm a bit undetermined of this request. It always gets complicated > when money is used for work that has been (or can be) done on a > volunteer basis. If it is right, everything can be done by voluntter basis. Since what Sun Microsystem has been done for OOo.
It's very difficult to human resources. Finding sponsor for CD-ROM might be much more easy. > Peter is right, we need to be careful to create precedence cases that > we cannot satisfy. On the other hand, we run many bounties, offering > money for newcomers (like the Internship Programme or the > Documentation Bounty), while other long-term contributors are without > compensation for their work except travel fundings, and are even > required to cover part of their costs on their own. Terada-san is a quite newcomer. I find him on twitter. He has been suggesting improvements on ja.oo.o, and I asked him to work on ja.oo.o. And what's the difference between ja.oo.o top page and for example Documentation Bounty? > I know quite a lot people working on the websites, having improved the > website several times in their free time, redesigned it twices in the > DE project, and never received a single cent. When they see that money > is spent for other projects, this might cause some problems. Please do not think "top page" can be maintained by free of charge. In general, it's difficlut to find volunteers. DE, IT, FR cases are exception. If it's easy I never ask for funding. Anyway, still I argue for that. I looked http://mozilla.jp/ and very very well organized. I was impressed and suprized to see their pages. How they get it? Mozilla.jp is a NPO (non profit organization) and they are funded by Mozilla foundation. I don't think everything should be funded by OO.o CC, and JA asks for all, every possiblity. > That said, I'm still a bit undetermined. Sorry for being so annoying > here, but can you elaborate a bit on what exactly has been done? The > amount of 1.000 € sounds quite high to me, so I would love to hear > what exactly has been done and how much time it took approximately. For that, I asked terada-san. Thanks Nakata Maho From: Florian Effenberger <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:11:05 +0200 > Hi Maho, > > Maho NAKATA wrote on 2010-06-16 04.27: > >> I'm the project lead of ja.oo.o, and I'd like to request 1000 >> Euro for Terada-san's top page renewal work for >> http://ja.openoffice.org/ . >> >> Following instruction >> at >> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets, >> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2010 >> here is the relevant infomation.. >> >> * status: it's already committed. >> * what the expenditure is for top page renewal >> * where the good/services should be delivered: http://ja.openoffice.org/ >> * which budget category it falls under: General Marketing >> * value / currency including taxes: 1000Euro >> * Supplier name: Terada Kazuhiro > > I'm a bit undetermined of this request. It always gets complicated > when money is used for work that has been (or can be) done on a > volunteer basis. > > Peter is right, we need to be careful to create precedence cases that > we cannot satisfy. On the other hand, we run many bounties, offering > money for newcomers (like the Internship Programme or the > Documentation Bounty), while other long-term contributors are without > compensation for their work except travel fundings, and are even > required to cover part of their costs on their own. > > I know quite a lot people working on the websites, having improved the > website several times in their free time, redesigned it twices in the > DE project, and never received a single cent. When they see that money > is spent for other projects, this might cause some problems. > > I'm a bit in fear of people requesting more and more money and not > working voluntarily anymore, thus I'm generally sceptical to these > requests. > > On the other hand, I see that for some cases there might be a need. > > That said, I'm still a bit undetermined. Sorry for being so annoying > here, but can you elaborate a bit on what exactly has been done? The > amount of 1.000 € sounds quite high to me, so I would love to hear > what exactly has been done and how much time it took approximately. > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger <[email protected]> > OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 > Fax: +49 8341 99660889 > Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
