Hi,

and as you see here [1] there might no be consensus at all on certain things.

[1] http://incubator.markmail.org/thread/b7cnqiweyre44pg5

2013/3/26 Fabian Christ <christ.fab...@googlemail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> the statements about the elected licenses of dual-licensed stuff is
> not necessary and I think wrong at this place.
>
> See http://incubator.markmail.org/thread/r3rj5snd2tnb4nzw
>
> Best,
>  - Fabian
>
> 2013/3/26 Fabian Christ <christ.fab...@googlemail.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did not have a look but I have seen many discussions about to
>> extensive NOTICE files. So I would like to stress that point. The
>> point is that this file is not meant to be a list of what is included.
>> Is is meant to hold extra information that some licenses require. So
>> this is only about legal aspects. This is not a file to give credit or
>> to be fair to authors of included software.
>>
>> If you want to express credits or just list everything that is
>> included, regardless of the license, to give people a complete
>> overview, I would suggest to create just another file and name it
>> INCLUDED-SOURCES or similar.
>>
>> So, just keep the NOTICE minimal and for legal aspects only. If your
>> included sources or binaries require a lot of NOTICE because of their
>> license, fine. Then the NOTICE just has to be extensive ;)
>>
>> Best,
>>  - Fabian
>>
>> 2013/3/26 Sebastian Schaffert <sschaff...@apache.org>:
>>> Dear all (especially mentors),
>>>
>>> could you please have a look at the updated LICENSE and NOTICE files? I now
>>> took a very different approach following more-or-less what Apache Geronimo
>>> and Apache ODE are doing:
>>> - the NOTICE file contains attribution for all 3rd party software bundled
>>> in the respective distribution, a full copy of the 3rd party NOTICE file
>>> (if it exists), and a pointer to its source code
>>> - the LICENSE file contains a list of licenses (full-text) for reference
>>>
>>> I think this complies fully with the requirements detailled in
>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html . The only issue might be that it
>>> is too extensive. However, most licenses anyways require some form of
>>> attribution (especially also the Apache License), so it is easier to
>>> include all of them in the same way. In those cases where this is not
>>> strictly required, it is just fair towards the authors to mention them
>>> anyways :)
>>>
>>> The extensive NOTICE files will only be relevant in the binary
>>> distributions, because they bundle many 3rd party libraries. The source
>>> distribution NOTICE will only mention the Javascript and Java source files
>>> that we include in our source tree.
>>>
>>> The purpose of this approach is as follows:
>>>
>>> if someone wants to use and redistribute one of the distributions,
>>> regardless whether it is the source or one of the binary distributions, he
>>> needs to be aware of the copyrights of bundled libraries. So he can go to
>>> the NOTICE file and check there for any license that might conflict with
>>> his intentions. The NOTICE file mentions the copyright holders and licenses
>>> of all the bundled software, as well as pointers to the respective source
>>> code repositories (to know where it comes from) and (in case it exists) the
>>> content of the referred project's NOTICE file. In case he wants more
>>> details about the license, its full text can be looked up in the LICENSE
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Could you please check the following distributions at
>>> http://people.apache.org/~sschaffert/:
>>> - apache-marmotta-3.0.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT-src.zip
>>> - apache-marmotta-3.0.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT-webapp.zip
>>>
>>> The -ldpath distribution is not yet updated (it will be mostly a subset of
>>> the webapp). The -installer distribution is mostly the same as the -webapp,
>>> but contains in addition Apache Tomcat and IzPack. I am currently
>>> uploading, so it might be available only in a few minutes. :)
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fabian
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>
>
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> Fabian
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