On 31/03/13 19:31, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> On 31/03/13 17:23, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> The N&L files aren't what I was expecting which was to follow the
>> examples of CouchDB or Solr.

(I am referring to the NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt in the src zip - these
are the most important ones.  The src is the product.)

> Sebastian follow some things from those projects, since they have
> similar setup regarding js libraries included and so on.

That is not what I see in the NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt in the src zip
file. As I have detailed in my reply to the vote call, Marmotta has a different approach.

>> which can be for Marmotta:
>>
>> """
>> The JQuery Library is copyright 2013 jQuery Foundation and other
>> contributors,
>> and licensed under MIT License. The source code is available at
>> https://github.com/jquery/jquery
>>
>> Source Locations:
>> - platform/marmotta-core/src/main/resources/web/public/js/lib
>> """
>>
>> There, they have one minimal entry for included material (name and
>> copyright line), and the full license in LICENSE. Nowadays that can
>> be a pointer (we trust the web infrastructure :-).
>
> Sebastian preferred to be detailed.

It is not following the examples that were referred to.  They
follow the line of "details go in LICENSE; NOTICE is minimal".  The
Marmotta approach is to put everything in NOTICE.

For already properly marked included MIT/BSD, yon only need the LICENSE. If you wish to put name/copyright in NOTICE then fine but putting the LICENSE entry in NOTICE instead of LICENSE is more than that.

...
>
> This text is what we currently have in NOTICE, which is longer that
> what they use in CouchDB, for instance, but Sebastian preferred to be
> detailed about what and where. Although nothing mandatory, I'm fine
> with it since is not so hard to read.

Details go in LICENSE:

http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps

You can vary that with a reason but I don't see one.

> Tomorrow I'll be out the whole day, but on Tuesday we'll take a look
> with detail to those recommendations, and see if we can manage to
> release Marmotta one of these days...
>
> Thanks for your n revision ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>

I don't see any further information in support of the current approach.

-1

The LICENSE contains things that aren't licenses.

The NOTICE contains material that
http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps
puts in LICENSE.

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It would be better if any changes are pushed to git, then let dev@ know for a discussion. One reason there are many RC's is that discussion is rushed and votes called when verifying the comments have been addressed could be done.

        Andy

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