Hi Sergio,
below I could give you some clarifications about how I interpreted W3C's
draft,

On 10 June 2013 20:19, Sergio Fernández <wik...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd not like to get this discussion dying without getting some conclusions
> from all members of the project.
>
>
> On 04/06/13 19:39, Raffaele Palmieri wrote:
>
>> I would have said container, but the meaning gived to this term in ldp
>> draft's W3C is different by the actual concept of context in Marmotta.
>> Though I think that there are intersections between context and ldp
>> container, conceptually they are two ways to assemble triples, the
>> latter introduces some strong constraints for membership and is the
>> medium to create and access resources.
>>
>
> Conceptually maybe, but not formally:
>
> - a context/graph is a quad as <g,s,p,o>
>
> - a ldp:Container is a triple as <c,m,s>


> where m is the membership predicated (rdfs:member by default right now).


Not properly, a container is a conformant LDPR, not a single triple.
Not necessarily the membership subject will be the LDPC resource itself.
A container has always a state represented by the set of member triples
<ms,mp,mo> where <mo> may be additionally subject of other triples included
in container's representation.


>

Actually my first implementation of LDP was under the assumption that every
> container was also a context/graph. Although at the end I arrived to the
> conclusion that it may be too complex, this could be true, but not the
> other way (not all graphs would be a ldp:Container). Therefore, since LDP
> is not defined in terms of SPARQL, personally I'd prefer not to use
> container for describing contexts/graphs.


Though, there are not normatives about use of SPARQL, LDPC may be
associated to a sparql endpoint in application scenarios, and LDPR may be
created, updated, deleted using SPARQL Update.


> Cheers,
>
> P.S.: this refreshes that I'd need to put effort again on getting
> seriously back to LDP stuff in Marmotta; I hope to have some more time in
> July...
>
>
>  for the moment +1 for graph.
>>
>
> Good; thanks for your opinion on this.
>

My vote for "graph" depends on the fact that in Marmotta "context" has a
different meaning than "container", and so "graph" is the only good
alternative.


>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Sergio Fernández
>

Cheers,
Raffaele.

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