On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Jeff Jensen <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Agreed, we put the WSDL and related schemas in a domain module and its
> build generates these domain classes in its build.  Then other modules use
> the domain jar...
> 
> The only place we currently use dependency:unpack is in an AT (acceptance
> test) module that retrieves the war and unpacks it to an exploded war dir
> for then starting embedded Tomcat for the tests.
> 

Is this only because the WAR needs to be exploded to work? In that you expect 
resources to be in the file system vs the classpath?

> 
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Sure, if you have odd cases like that it comes in handy.
>> 
>> Seems counter productive to put the WSDL in a WAR, deploy/install it only
>> to retrieve the WAR again and pull out the WSDL to generate your client
>> code.
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Dominik Bartholdi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> We use the dependency:unpack to get hold on a couple of WSDL files
>> packaged within a WAR (or jar, zip).
>>> These WSDLs the are the input to generate the client site code with
>> jaxws-m-p - coping these files into our repo is definitely nothing we want
>> to do and accessing these files nine via http is not an option either.
>>> Domi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12.04.2014, at 18:38, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm much more here. For example, I might have 250,000 words of text
>>>>> annotated for training a statistical model. I have a maven build that
>>>>> needs to grab unpack that pile into some location, run a plugin that
>>>>> performs some data normalization, and then feed the location into a
>>>>> maven plugin of mine that trains the model.
>>>> 
>>>> This definitively seems like the wrong place to do this, in the build
>> system. This is not a build time activity, it seems like part of an ETL
>> flow of a data acquisition application.
>>>> 
>>>>> I guess I could model this
>>>>> as dependencies, if the scope system allowed me to manage all of this
>>>>> at a safe distance from the classpath, but as it is it works fine as
>>>>> 'putting together a bunch of files.'
>>>> 
>>>> The question is why would you model something like this at all in
>> Maven. Just because you might be able to doesn't mean you should. You can,
>> but your specific use case doesn't seem appropriate for a build system.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think that Hervé is trying to help me by suggesting that I
>> shouldn't
>>>>>>> need the dependency: that just calling out the coordinates to
>>>>>>> something like :unpack should result in resolution via injection.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then what changes?
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>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
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Thanks,

Jason

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